# The Good Place \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/522 "2018-01-13T02:17:22Z")
The “fork in a garbage disposal” metaphor is going to stick with me for the rest of my life. I loved this episode. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/523 "2018-01-13T03:06:44Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > It was a bit of a treading-water episode, but it was still funny and had some nice character development. I think it was the complete opposite of treading water. They completely abandoned the setting of the show (at least for now) and set the stage for the remainder of the season. This was almost a mini pilot for the second half of season 2. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/524 "2018-01-13T04:18:05Z")
Well there goes the neighborhood! > [@Quimby](#): > > I think it was the complete opposite of treading water. They completely abandoned the setting of the show (at least for now) and set the stage for the remainder of the season. This was almost a mini pilot for the second half of season 2. Agreed. And we actually get to see the real Bad Place; it’ll be interesting to if/how it lives up to the descriptions we’ve gotten given this is a network TV show. Then again the portal is in the Bad Place HQ so they might just go straight to that office building thing Michael was working in when he came up with the idea for the “Good Place”. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/525 "2018-01-17T19:09:58Z")
Random probably-not-accurate guess. Michael is a construct, just like the fake victims of the trolley problem. He thinks he’s a real demon, he thinks the Bad Place is exactly as horrifying as we’ve all been told it is, and he really does want to get to the Good Place. This entire arc, including the last few episodes, is still for the benefit/torture/torture-benefit of the four human characters. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/526 "2018-01-18T02:11:24Z")
The only thing that makes me doubt Michael being a construct is why does his boss still treat him like he’s real? If he were just a kind of Janet-being, you’d just upload the “memories” to him and not have a face to face meeting. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/527 "2018-01-19T02:27:22Z")
I’ll avoid spoilers, but I think the end of tonight’s episode was a pretty impressive show of character growth. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/528 "2018-01-19T11:26:27Z")
Pirates of the Caribbean 6 The Belayed Crows Nest Or Something Who Gives A Crap Now Showing Everywhere Forever ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/529 "2018-01-19T13:45:37Z")
“JORTLES!!!” I thought it was great seeing how Jason fit right in with all the bros in hell. He just seemed like he was hanging out with his friends at a sports bar. The highlight for me was Tahani trying to pull off an American accent - “pass the NASCAR ketchup!” ---
**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/530 "2018-01-19T14:34:23Z")
I liked the wide shot of the train crossing the trestle. Presumably it crosses the River Styx, and it allows them to bypass those annoying ferrymen. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/531 "2018-01-19T15:27:35Z")
The Blake Bortles jokes are even more amusing to me considering he’s in the AFC Championship Game this weekend. If he becomes a Super Bowl winning QB (unlikely) it’d make it even more hilarious. Also the molotov cocktail worked! Because of course they do - as soon as Jason said that I was like yes, do that. Oh, Michael, _sniff_. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/532 "2018-01-19T16:58:40Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > “JORTLES!!!” I died. 😃 Of course, it being on NBC, they could never show this, but I would have loved to have seen Eleanor, once she realized she could actually swear again, let loose a tirade of filthy curse words, just because she now could. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/533 "2018-01-19T18:19:41Z")
“Can’t a single hottie read philosophy books for fun?” ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/534 "2018-01-19T19:38:04Z")
The Dax Shepard cameo was a nice touch. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/535 "2018-01-19T20:41:14Z")
I am going spoiler box free. So where was Janet at the end of the ep? Did Michael intentionally not have her there? Or is she somewhere else with that somewhere else to revealed as being quite significant? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/536 "2018-01-19T21:12:27Z")
‘How do you smell loud and confusing?’ I’m assuming that where Janet is isn’t going to be significant in itself…just that being elsewhere allows her to sweep in and rescue Michael next week, without opening up the question of why she didn’t do whatever she does before. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/537 "2018-01-19T21:29:07Z")
One small annoyance with the episode–the exhibit of the “First white person to grow dreadlocks (and the first person to call Ultimate Frisbee ‘ultimate’).” This plays to the lie that dreadlocks are a “black thing” that has been culturally appropriated by whites, when in fact white people have been wearing dreadlocks for thousands of years. The first white person to grow dreadlocks might have been the first person to call Ultimate Discus “ultimate.” Or Ultimate Poke A Mammoth With A Sharpened Stick. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/538 "2018-01-19T22:42:41Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > One small annoyance with the episode–the exhibit of the “First white person to grow dreadlocks (and the first person to call Ultimate Frisbee ‘ultimate’).” This plays to the lie that dreadlocks are a “black thing” that has been culturally appropriated by whites, when in fact white people have been wearing dreadlocks for thousands of years. The first white person to grow dreadlocks might have been the first person to call Ultimate Discus “ultimate.” Or Ultimate Poke A Mammoth With A Sharpened Stick. I also thought that was a pretty weak jab. It’s called “Ultimate” instead of “Ultimate Frisbee” because “Frisbee” is a brand name, and thus it can’t legally be called “Ultimate Frisbee”. (And of course one of the people who invented Ultimate Frisbee grew up to be the creator of Veronica Mars, Kristen Bell’s first big starring role.) On the whole, I think this episode was a bit less than the sum of its parts. It had a lot of funny moments, but overall had nowhere near the satisfying “OMG I can not believe it” feel of the first season finale. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/539 "2018-01-19T23:15:30Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > On the whole, I think this episode was a bit less than the sum of its parts. It had a lot of funny moments, but overall had nowhere near the satisfying “OMG I can not believe it” feel of the first season finale. This wasn’t the finale, though. Was it? I could’ve used maybe 3 weeks in Hell, dodging Shawn and their former neighbors. StG ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/540 "2018-01-19T23:26:12Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Pirates of the Caribbean 6 > The Belayed Crows Nest > Or Something > Who Gives A Crap > Now Showing Everywhere > Forever My eye went RIGHT to that poster, when the shot of the train station appeared. And there was another Johnny Depp joke later in the episode. Someone on that show really has it in for him! > [@Shoeless](#): > > The Dax Shepard cameo was a nice touch. Yes, and having the spouses compliment each other, then letting the plot move on, was well-handled. > [@StGermain](#): > > This wasn’t the finale, though. Was it? > I could’ve used maybe 3 weeks in Hell, dodging Shawn and their former neighbors. > StG There are two more episodes: January 25 and February 1. I, too, was hoping for more of The Bad Place. (Anyone know how long a wait we’ll have until Season 3?) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/541 "2018-01-19T23:41:34Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > On the whole, I think this episode was a bit less than the sum of its parts. It had a lot of funny moments, but overall had nowhere near the satisfying “OMG I can not believe it” feel of the first season finale. There’s still two episodes left to go, so it shouldn’t have that level of cliffhanger anyway. And let’s not assume there will be another twist at season’s end either, that gets tired and feels forced after a while, it’s best not to set too high a precedent, as I’m sure the creators know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=28)