# The Good Place \[edited title\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/542 "2018-01-19T23:49:05Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> I could’ve used maybe 3 weeks in Hell…

Said by hardly anyone…

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/543 "2018-01-19T23:54:07Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> There’s still two episodes left to go, so it shouldn’t have that level of cliffhanger anyway. And let’s not assume there will be another twist at season’s end either, that gets tired and feels forced after a while, it’s best not to set too high a precedent, as I’m sure the creators know.

Huh. Something someone posted on the AV club convinced me that this was the season finale. No wonder it felt underwhelming!

Sorry for the confusion.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/544 "2018-01-20T02:13:59Z")

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I really got into the philosophy Eleanor was dropping. I try to live GOOD, but I know that sometimes you have to do white lies. I struggle sometimes with if it’s hypocrisy. But the thing she espoused (moral particularism?) was really what I needed to hear. I can do the right thing FOR THE SITUATION even if it’s against my general outlook and not be a giant hypocrite.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/545 "2018-01-20T02:22:23Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Pirates of the Caribbean 6  
> The Belayed Crows Nest  
> Or Something  
> Who Gives A Crap
> 
> Now Showing Everywhere  
> Forever

I liked the other ad in the station - the one for the pitchfork: “Elegant. Timeless. Triple-stabby.”

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/546 "2018-01-20T02:23:28Z")

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I also loved the music at the party. It was a smooth jazz rendition of “Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer.”

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/547 "2018-01-20T02:45:51Z")

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Well, I think we can safely say that Michael isn’t a construct. Also I think Shawn’s attempt to bypass the extradition process by invading the Medium Place may have seriously bad consequences for him.

> [@SykoSkotty](#):
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> …I thought it was great seeing how Jason fit right in with all the bros in hell. He just seemed like he was hanging out with his friends at a sports bar.
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> The highlight for me was Tahani trying to pull off an American accent - “pass the NASCAR ketchup!”

American Tahani was hilarious; especially name dropping celebrities she’s tortured. I do think it would’ve been better if Chidi sold his “torture” idea by just being himself as starting to talk about philosophy “as a demonstration” instead of trying to explain it in bro-speak.

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I died. 😃
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> Of course, it being on NBC, they could never show this, but I would have loved to have seen Eleanor, once she realized she could actually swear again, let loose a tirade of filthy curse words, just because she now could.

I watch in on Hulu, and they could’ve gotten away with real curse words.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/548 "2018-01-20T15:39:52Z")

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> [@whitetho](#):
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> I liked the wide shot of the train crossing the trestle. Presumably it crosses the River Styx, and it allows them to bypass those annoying ferrymen.

The announcements were fun too:

“The train is 3 hours late, like always”

“You are all ugly and stupid”.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/549 "2018-01-20T20:30:54Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> The announcements were fun too:
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> “The train is 3 hours late, like always”
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> “You are all ugly and stupid”.

Actually, I kind of wondered about that.

If the train were always 3 hours late, you could plan around that. It would be much worse if the train were sometimes late or early by a randomly varying amount of time. And, now and then, randomly, it would be right on time. But the Bad Janet conductor wouldn’t wait for latecomers.

And the announcement, “You. In the weird coat. You’re ugly and stupid” would be MUCH more effective than a blanket insult to the crowd. That way, everyone would wonder if the ugly and stupid one is them.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/550 "2018-01-20T21:35:35Z")

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Except that the demon apparently like terrible stuff. The trains are always three hours late? Awesome, that sucks. There are no humans in that train station to torture; all of that is for the benefit of the demons.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/551 "2018-01-21T01:19:28Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I wonder if ‘time’ is even a concept. It seems like the Places could be entirely out side of time - although there may need to be some connection to the ‘real’ universe because our four human protagonists all apparently died somewhat at the same time?..

Apparently the Bad Place still waiting for [Joe Francis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Francis) to arrive. Given that centuries probably passed during the “Good Place” experiment everyone must be outside of “time” as it passes on Earth.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/552 "2018-01-21T01:24:24Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> One small annoyance with the episode–the exhibit of the “First white person to grow dreadlocks (and the first person to call Ultimate Frisbee ‘ultimate’).” This plays to the lie that dreadlocks are a “black thing” that has been culturally appropriated by whites, when in fact white people have been wearing dreadlocks for thousands of years. The first white person to grow dreadlocks might have been the first person to call Ultimate Discus “ultimate.” Or Ultimate Poke A Mammoth With A Sharpened Stick.

Can we trace a line from current white-dreadlock wearing back to those medieval/ancient Europeans’ practice? Or did they get it, tracing it back, to black people?

I don’t have a strong opinion about cultural appropriation in this case but I have wondered if the “vikings did it” argument really holds water. If the Vikings did it, but then no Europeans did it for centuries, and white people started doing it later on because doing black people stuff is cool, then the viking angle is a red herring.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/553 "2018-01-21T16:55:11Z")

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Maybe the season ending revelation will be that Michael is in purgatory and the Good Place was his way of redeeming himself.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/554 "2018-01-26T08:30:50Z")

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Episode: “The Burrito”

Another great episode. Chidi’s test is one of the best sight gags I’ve seen for a long time, the identity of Janet was obvious but well played, and some massive proof of growth for Eleanor.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/555 "2018-01-26T12:44:27Z")

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I also would like to know what Quvenzhane Wallis and Stephen Hawking think about Tahani.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/556 "2018-01-26T14:09:11Z")

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Great episode - I did not see the Janet switch coming, but I’m glad it happened instead of her dropping another epic fart.

Maya Rudolph as the judge - hysterical!

I don’t know where this show is going next but it’s really been enjoyable so far.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/557 "2018-01-26T14:44:28Z")

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Like the Judge I could probably watch a half hour of Tahani just saying stuff.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/558 "2018-01-26T15:11:27Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Like the Judge I could probably watch a half hour of Tahani just saying stuff.

She wouldn’t even have to talk! The accent is just a bonus. 😛

Jason cracks me up. “Oh, that’s why his name is Chidi! Now I get it!”

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/559 "2018-01-26T15:40:17Z")

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> [@SykoSkotty](#):
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> Maya Rudolph as the judge - hysterical!

Loving her is easy 'cause she’s beautiful.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/560 "2018-01-26T17:31:57Z")

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Forgot to add (best moment of the episode):

Michael saying to Shawn: “as one of my true friends once said, YA BASIC! It’s a devastating insult…you’re devastated right now.”

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/561 "2018-01-26T20:14:49Z")

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> [@SykoSkotty](#):
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> Forgot to add (best moment of the episode):
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> Michael saying to Shawn: “as one of my true friends once said, YA BASIC! It’s a devastating insult…you’re devastated right now.”

Yeah his delivery of that was perfect.

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