# The Good Place \[edited title\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/562 "2018-01-26T21:13:22Z")

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Once again, the details were amazing. Two, in particular, come to mind:

1. The stack of New Yorkers gets taller between when Michael enters the room and when Janet throws Shawn against the wall. Those magazines really do keep coming!

2. The last slide is of everyone watching the slide show.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/563 "2018-01-26T21:26:46Z")

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“I’m going to frame that one,” says the judge as a framed picture materializes on the wall in the background.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/564 "2018-01-26T23:53:41Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Like the Judge I could probably watch a half hour of Tahani just saying stuff.

> [@Shoeless](#):
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> She wouldn’t even have to talk! The accent is just a bonus. 😛

Fans of Tahani may enjoy this podcast interview with Jameela Jamil on [The JV Club](https://nerdist.com/the-jv-club-265-jameela-jamil/).

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/565 "2018-01-27T00:00:25Z")

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Oh, there was another time reference in this one - the Judge says that she hasn’t tried a case in thirty years. Presumably that was the whole deal with whasserface that ended in the Medium place.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/566 "2018-01-27T00:07:36Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Oh, there was another time reference in this one - the Judge says that she hasn’t tried a case in thirty years. Presumably that was the whole deal with whasserface that ended in the Medium place.

By the time the four humans see the judge, they’d been through 802 iterations of The Good Place. That means that about 300 years had passed between when they first met Mindy and when they saw the judge. Unless time somehow works differently in the neutral zone, there’s no way that Mindy’s case is the last one that Gen adjudicated.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/567 "2018-01-27T00:21:09Z")

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> [@Scribble](#):
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> Unless time somehow works differently in the neutral zone, there’s no way that Mindy’s case is the last one that Gen adjudicated.

Actually, I think time probably works differently _everywhere_ in the afterlife. The frat bro demons at the party were talking about waiting for the creator of Girls Gone Wild to show up.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/568 "2018-01-27T01:40:18Z")

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> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> Episode: “The Burrito”
> 
> Another great episode. Chidi’s test is one of the best sight gags I’ve seen for a long time, the identity of Janet was obvious but well played, and some massive proof of growth for Eleanor.

If we take everything at face value Eleanor is the only who passed her test (which doesn’t matter because the other 3 failed theirs), but we shouldn’t take anything at face value now should we? 😉 Plus there’s not dramatic point to having Michael & Janet show up if they can’t effect the outcome. Also presumably the gang going to either the real Bad Place or the Good Place would end the show, but it’s been renewed for a 3rd season so I think there must be a 3rd option. Michael can’t be he only one who’s fate is still undecided.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/569 "2018-01-27T02:35:04Z")

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I’m a little ticked that Jason’s test was for him to refuse to play the “test” he was ordered. He’s not that smart, even if it made sense. I’m glad Tahani got some closure with her parents.

StG

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/570 "2018-01-27T04:07:49Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Actually, I think time probably works differently _everywhere_ in the afterlife. The frat bro demons at the party were talking about waiting for the creator of Girls Gone Wild to show up.

I thought they were just waiting for the creator of Girls Gone Wild to get passed to them. The guy’s already dead, AIUI, but he’s being tortured in a different department as of the time of the museum party.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/571 "2018-01-27T07:21:24Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> I’m a little ticked that Jason’s test was for him to refuse to play the “test” he was ordered. He’s not that smart, even if it made sense. I’m glad Tahani got some closure with her parents.
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> StG

Nobody told him to play Madden, and he interrupted the judge before she could explain further. He just assumed the test was to beat the Jags because he has poor impulse control. If he’d heard her out it may have been made clearer that doing nothing was an option.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/572 "2018-01-27T08:29:16Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Also presumably the gang going to either the real Bad Place or the Good Place would end the show

Actually, I could see them getting to the Good Place and realizing ‘holy fork, this place is also totally shirty’, then spending the season either trying to work out a way to unshirtify it, or get to the Neutral Place where they could build something for themselves.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/573 "2018-01-27T17:51:23Z")

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BTW, does anyone else think it odd that The Medium Place is apparently located in The Bad Place instead of The Neutral Zone? The gang were able to travel there from a Bad Place neighborhood without any special actions taken by Janet, when travel to The Good Place involves 2 wormhole trips with a layover in The Neutral Zone.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/574 "2018-01-27T18:16:35Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> BTW, does anyone else think it odd that The Medium Place is apparently located in The Bad Place instead of The Neutral Zone? The gang were able to travel there from a Bad Place neighborhood without any special actions taken by Janet, when travel to The Good Place involves 2 wormhole trips with a layover in The Neutral Zone.

I had the impression that the Neutral Zone is basically “Staff Only” and that humans generally are not supposed to be there at all. The Medium Place is, like the Bad Place, a human afterlife.

Why it’s relatively easy to get from the Bad Place to the Medium Place is another question, and I don’t have an answer for it.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/575 "2018-01-28T05:13:23Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> I had the impression that the Neutral Zone is basically “Staff Only” and that humans generally are not supposed to be there at all. The Medium Place is, like the Bad Place, a human afterlife.
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> Why it’s relatively easy to get from the Bad Place to the Medium Place is another question, and I don’t have an answer for it.

Apparently, the medium place is closer to the fake good place than the bad place is. The train trip from the fake good place to the medium place was relatively fast.

However, when Michael and the gang go to the bad place, they start their trip in the early morning. But we see them still on the train at night.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/576 "2018-01-28T19:13:53Z")

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> [@Scribble](#):
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> However, when Michael and the gang go to the bad place, they start their trip in the early morning. But we see them still on the train at night.

I though the implication was that literally everything disappeared when the fake good place was dismantled, and the train was driving through a complete black void of nothingness.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/577 "2018-01-29T04:25:53Z")

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I’m assuming that they get retried now that Michael is there to act as their advocate.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/578 "2018-01-29T09:54:29Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I’m assuming that they get retried now that Michael is there to act as their advocate.

Here’s a sneak peek of next week’s episode. Michael might end up addressing the irrationality and unfairness of the point system entirely: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBPoc\_ZWcC4&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBPoc_ZWcC4&feature=youtu.be)

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Didn’t Michael say that the Janet Warehouse in the same inter-dimensional space as the judge? Might come into play. However, I am giving up on predicting what’s coming next - impossible task.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/580 "2018-01-29T17:04:25Z")

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Chidi: Would you stop doing that?

Eleanor: It helps me relax. [passes through door to immediately appear at the other door across the room]

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/581 "2018-01-29T17:18:24Z")

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> [@SykoSkotty](#):
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> I don’t know where this show is going next but it’s really been enjoyable so far.

This is really what it’s all about. I used to be able to predict where a half hour sitcom was going within the first minute or so they were so cliched.

The Good Place? It’s so well written it’s continually surprising me. Even to the point of astonishment.

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