# The Good Place \[edited title\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/802 "2018-11-03T03:39:01Z")

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It was bugging me that I couldn’t recognize the actor playing Eleanor’s stepfather until I realized he was every SCTV cast member crushed into one body.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/803 "2018-11-03T04:06:31Z")

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Andy Daly.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/804 "2018-11-03T08:59:28Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> It was bugging me that I couldn’t recognize the actor playing Eleanor’s stepfather until I realized he was every SCTV cast member crushed into one body.

He’s been in the latest CarMax commercials.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/805 "2018-11-04T18:45:06Z")

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I wonder how much longer the writers are going to keep up this “gang does good on Earth” plotline?

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/806 "2018-11-04T19:01:58Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I wonder how much longer the writers are going to keep up this “gang does good on Earth” plotline?

Well, Eleanor, Tahani, and Jason have all done their big bits over the past couple of episodes. Other than breaking things off with Simone, I’m not sure that we’ve seen Chidi trying to “save” someone from his past; my guess would be that, once that story gets told (probably next week), the next curveball in the plot will come along.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/807 "2018-11-04T19:16:02Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Well, Eleanor, Tahani, and Jason have all done their big bits over the past couple of episodes. Other than breaking things off with Simone, I’m not sure that we’ve seen Chidi trying to “save” someone from his past; my guess would be that, once that story gets told (probably next week), the next curveball in the plot will come along.

In Chidi’s case normally I would expect more closure with his one friend that caught the brunt of his indecisiveness in the original timeline, but just being with Simone seems to have really mellowed him out. But I agree, most of the new status quos have not lasted long, and I don’t expect this one to either. I’m still amazed at how many times they’ve managed to change the premise without milking it for at least half a season.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/808 "2018-11-09T10:08:02Z")

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Episode: The Worst Possible Use of Free Will

This is more like it. This was funny, moving and moved the story. This is by far the best season 3 episode, and welcome back Vicky 🙂

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/809 "2018-11-09T13:52:12Z")

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Yes. Bringing Sean and Vicky back gives some conflict and more room for humor.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/810 "2018-11-09T15:51:13Z")

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[Here is the screen full of information about Eleanor’s life.](https://tv.avclub.com/the-good-place-annotated-the-worst-possible-use-of-f-1830324085)

Lots of fun stuff this episode, particularly Tahani’s and Jason’s pets (although how did a pet penguin end up torturing Jason?).

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**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/811 "2018-11-09T19:35:15Z")

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For some reason I was expecting the last guy to explode while coming through the portal.

Ted Danson was awesome in this episode.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/812 "2018-11-09T19:38:15Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Lots of fun stuff this episode, particularly Tahani’s and Jason’s pets (although how did a pet penguin end up torturing Jason?).

Play football like Blake Bortles.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/813 "2018-11-10T01:08:21Z")

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I kinda want a pet minotaur that judges me now.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/814 "2018-11-10T01:19:08Z")

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Not a mirror centaur, like the one Tahani had last night?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/815 "2018-11-10T04:30:21Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Yes. Bringing Sean and Vicky back gives some conflict and more room for humor.

Also they have no powers and Michael and/or Janet can easily identify & out them to the gang.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/816 "2018-11-10T16:46:09Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Also they have no powers and Michael and/or Janet can easily identify & out them to the gang.

Do we know they have no powers? Maybe their illegal portal works differently from the official door.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/817 "2018-11-10T20:08:29Z")

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They won’t. If they did, the show couldn’t go on for more than an episode. Sean would just wave a hand to get what he wants.

Though I bet he thinks he has his powers right now.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/818 "2018-11-10T23:14:20Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> While I’m hoping that happens eventually, I don’t think that Michael or Janet has the power to cause that on Earth.

Apparently they do. Of course the _really_ interesting bit about that reveal is about the side effects to recalling afterlife memories on Earth; not that fact that their are side effects, that fact that Michael knows that there are side effects. That would imply this isn’t the first time someone was sent back to Earth for a second chance.

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**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/819 "2018-11-11T07:10:27Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Apparently they do. Of course the _really_ interesting bit about that reveal is about the side effects to recalling afterlife memories on Earth; not that fact that their are side effects, that fact that Michael knows that there are side effects. That would imply this isn’t the first time someone was sent back to Earth for a second chance.

That doesn’t necessarily follow. Since Janet is still omniscient, and Michael still remembers all the “architect” knowledge he had before coming to Earth, they both could know the effects of mortals revisiting their afterlife memories in a purely theoretical sense.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/820 "2018-11-11T23:24:31Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> …Though I bet he thinks he has his powers right now.

Well Trevor seemed like he was prepared for not having any powers while on Earth  
so it would be odd if Sean & co weren’t. That being said they might have a much harder time adapting than Trevor, Michael, or Janet did.

> [@DrCube](#):
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> That doesn’t necessarily follow. Since Janet is still omniscient, and Michael still remembers all the “architect” knowledge he had before coming to Earth, they both could know the effects of mortals revisiting their afterlife memories in a purely theoretical sense.

Good point, but I still think this might not be the first time anyone’s been sent back to Earth at least once before. Jen’s reaction last season when Michael suggested this makes me think they did it at least once before (& it may have gone very badly).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ecks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ecks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ecks)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/821 "2018-11-12T17:44:01Z")

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I always liked Vicky. Sure, she jerked Michael around, but she’s not like the others- she just wants to perform. I hope than now that she’s on Earth, she gets to go to Hollywood, or at least be on a reality show.

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