# The Good Place \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/902 "2018-12-08T00:33:37Z")
Say, did anyone also watch \*Supernatural \*last night? There were some \*very \*strange parallels between the two shows. It made for a weird double feature. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/903 "2018-12-08T01:21:07Z")
Well this episode was intense to say the least. D’Arcy Carden deserves an award. It sure seems like Michael is right about the points system being rigged to keep humans out of the Good Place, but wrong about who rigged it. Interesting that the Head Accountant didn’t mention Mindy St Clair when talking about how infallible the system is (granted her Neutral Place was apparently just a restricted suburb of the Bad Place, not the really Neutral Place). I can’t wait to finally see the actual Good Place, actual “angels”, & humans who ended up there. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Jeremy Bearimy. This does give them a lot of wiggle room whichever direction they go in. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/904 "2018-12-08T01:47:45Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Like Inner Stickler said, Jeremy Bearimy. Remember the Accountant mentioned that Doug Forcet was 60-something (64?). 68, and as a result “he’s screwed,” per the accountant. Age plays some kind of role in how your final points are calculated. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/905 "2018-12-08T01:51:29Z")
Of course, now they’ve got the book of Dougs they have information on the points total of Eleanor’s and Jason’s dads as well as Doug Forcett. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/906 "2018-12-08T02:09:34Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Say, did anyone also watch \*Supernatural \*last night? Yep. I’ve been waiting for The Empty to show back up again. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/907 "2018-12-08T03:37:28Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > 68, and as a result “he’s screwed,” per the accountant. > > Age plays some kind of role in how your final points are calculated. Pretty sure that’s just because he’s only got 20, MAYBE 30 years to get up to the benchmark. So for a young man his score would be on track, but for someone who could get a senior discount if he didn’t think that would be cheating the company out of their money, it’s hopeless. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/908 "2018-12-08T08:00:02Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Earlier in the show’s run, I wondered at why the four humans were in the bad place to begin with. (This might have been a subject of discussion earlier in the thread, although I’m not going back to look.) I mean Eleanor seems to be the worst person there but none of them seem actively evil. This episode seemed to explain that. Eleanor was definitely “Bad”, and so was Jason. But Chidi and Tahani? Flawed, yes, but not “bad”. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/909 "2018-12-08T08:14:28Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Yep. I’ve been waiting for The Empty to show back up again. Me too, but I was referring to how both shows featured their own versions of the accountant of the afterlife. The odds that two programs on the same day would decide to introduce such a weirdly specific supernatural entity… ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/910 "2018-12-08T17:11:48Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Eleanor was definitely “Bad”, and so was Jason. But Chidi and Tahani? Flawed, yes, but not “bad”. Here’s a thought; nobody’s gotten into the Good Place for over 500 years, and apparently only 1 person has gotten to a Neutral Place (which is still technically in the Bad Place), so unless there’s some an option we haven’t heard about yet (like reincarnation) the Bad Place is also filled with people who died in childhood or infancy (possibly even _in utero_). :eek: I wonder if the show’s ever going to address that. ---
**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/911 "2018-12-08T19:41:28Z")
Almost a throw away line - if we listen with our ears why is it butt overhear. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/912 "2018-12-08T21:16:10Z")
I couldn’t help butt laugh at that line. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/913 "2018-12-09T00:09:29Z")
So we have, what, a three-week wait until we find out more? It’s not just our introduction to The Good Place that we’ll be looking forward to–it’s also the certain complications that will come from Jason and Tahani’s new knowledge of Janet’s feelings about Jason. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/914 "2018-12-09T00:36:22Z")
> [@tim-n-va](#): > > Almost a throw away line - if we listen with our ears why is it butt overhear. Somebody explain that joke to me, please and thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/915 "2018-12-09T01:18:18Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > Somebody explain that joke to me, please and thank you. A common expression (used in the dialogue) is “I couldn’t help but overhear.” Jason reveals that he believes that what people are actually saying is “I couldn’t help butt-overhear”—as though “butt” is an adverb modifying “overhear.” ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/916 "2018-12-09T01:49:59Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > A common expression (used in the dialogue) is “I couldn’t help but overhear.” Jason reveals that he believes that what people are actually saying is “I couldn’t help butt-overhear”—as though “butt” is an adverb modifying “overhear.” :smack: ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/917 "2018-12-09T02:30:07Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Jason reveals that he believes… That was actually Eleanor pretending to be Jason. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/918 "2018-12-09T03:00:07Z")
Great star turn by D’Arcy Carden! Loved the Og and Grog paintings and Stephen Merchant’s typing style. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/919 "2018-12-09T03:18:12Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > it’s also the certain complications that will come from Jason and Tahani’s new knowledge of Janet’s feelings about Jason. Well, Tahani’s knowledge. Jason likely forgot all about it the moment he had that awesome tube-ride, if not sooner. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/920 "2018-12-09T23:31:29Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > That was actually Eleanor pretending to be Jason. Oh–hadn’t remembered that. Good catch! > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, Tahani’s knowledge. Jason likely forgot all about it the moment he had that awesome tube-ride, if not sooner. Though Jason may never have actually taken in the idea that Janet had feelings for him; he might just have thought that _she_ thought that getting married would be an interesting thing to do. Jason doesn’t seem to worry about what other people think of him–whether they like him or not, much less love him. He’s the antithesis of neurosis (say _that_ three times fast!) ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/921 "2018-12-10T00:47:49Z")
Two things, having just watched it… 1. D’arcy Carden is going to be promoted for an Emmy, right? That was some fine acting. Especially D’Arcy as Janet as Eleanor pretending to be Jason. 2. Was…was that Amy Poehler with a nose ring for a second there as Eleanor kept shifting bodies? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=47)