# The Good Place \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1042 "2019-01-26T23:51:53Z")
**Mr Shine** is correct. Janet has often been called a robot or a girl, and she always immediately refutes both of those. This was just a continuation of that theme, but most importantly emphasises how she is Eleanor’s friend. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1043 "2019-01-27T01:48:46Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > **Mr Shine** is correct. Janet has often been called a robot or a girl, and she always immediately refutes both of those. This was just a continuation of that theme, but most importantly emphasises how she is Eleanor’s friend. You could well all be right. I focused on “good” as being one of the three “things” Janet was referring to, because it had more plot possibilities. But, yeah. “Friend” makes for a warm season-ending scene. My only caveat is that Eleanor seemed to be talking about Janet as a “girlfriend” (of Jason) rather than as a girl who was a friend. (I typed it as two words accidentally. Not sure what canon is on the topic–that would be interesting to know. ---
**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1044 "2019-01-31T17:02:44Z")
Now that we are at the end of the season, I was rewatching season 1. Largely because Neflix just has the first 2 seasons. It is interesting that the show seemed to be figuring Shawn’s character as the show progressed. Shawn says at the beginning that he had been sleeping in goo for 28 years so he was not tired, and went into a cocoon everytime someone got emotional. Later that was all dropped and cocoons were used as punishment for other demons. Maybe it was an act as Shawn is from the bad place, but it seems like a switch in character. Also, Shawn comes as a judge, which was a ploy as Shawn is revealed to be from the bad place. So why does he talk to Michael in private about how Michael is in trouble and in jeopardy of being retired, when Michael’s plan had not unraveled in any way to that point? He also seems to imply it won’t be his decision about retirement when he is later shown to be Michael’s boss. He is scolding Micheal as if he is a good place judge. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1045 "2019-01-31T17:06:23Z")
> [@Mikemike2](#): > > Now that we are at the end of the season, I was rewatching season 1. Largely because Neflix just has the first 2 seasons. > It is interesting that the show seemed to be figuring Shawn’s character as the show progressed. Shawn says at the beginning that he had been sleeping in goo for 28 years so he was not tired, and went into a cocoon everytime someone got emotional. Later that was all dropped and cocoons were used as punishment for other demons. Maybe it was an act as Shawn is from the bad place, but seems like a switch in character. I’m pretty sure it was all supposed to be an act. > [@](#): > > Also, Shawn comes as a judge, which was a ploy as Shawn is revealed to be from the bad place. So why does he talk to Michael in private about how Michael is in trouble and in jeopardy of being retired, when Michael’s plan had not unraveled in any way to that point? He also seems to imply it won’t be his decision about retirement when he is later shown to be Michael’s boss. He is scolding Micheal as if he is a good place judge. What do you think? Michael’s plan had unraveled. He wasn’t expecting Eleanor to reveal she didn’t belong. Her 1000 year long torture was supposed to be her constantly in fear of being found out. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1046 "2019-01-31T17:11:15Z")
Yeah Schur said on one of the podcasts that things like retreating into a cocoon any time anyone got emotional was supposed to be more torture for team cockroach. It’s only in Season 2 that we start getting info about Shawn that is ‘legit’. ---
**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1047 "2019-01-31T19:57:51Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Michael’s plan had unraveled. He wasn’t expecting Eleanor to reveal she didn’t belong. Her 1000 year long torture was supposed to be her constantly in fear of being found out. Okay, it was in danger of unraveling because of the Eleanor reveal. ---
**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1048 "2019-01-31T20:02:29Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Yeah Schur said on one of the podcasts that things like retreating into a cocoon any time anyone got emotional was supposed to be more torture for team cockroach. It’s only in Season 2 that we start getting info about Shawn that is ‘legit’. Good point, but I still think Shawn’s character and job description changed somewhat, what was revealed in Season 2 was decided after Season 1. ---
**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1049 "2019-02-08T19:03:02Z")
I just watched the season finale today. I thought it was really good. The show is well set up for many plot possibilities next year and we have not found out yet who the other two new people will be. Ted Danson continues to set the standard for acting. Could either of the new people be Eleonor’s old roommates? Or her old Boss? Is the bad place killing people to send up for the test? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1050 "2019-02-09T00:12:25Z")
> [@Mikemike2](#): > > Is the bad place killing people to send up for the test? Could be, or it could just be a Jeremy Bearimy thing where people die at various times over a period of decades, but are brought into the experiment at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1051 "2019-02-09T01:41:14Z")
The other residents of this neighborhood are all built by Janet, aren’t they? Neutral characters? But what if they need to be tortured by the demons in order to do the work to become better people? A little motivating boost, as it were? What if the other residents, built by Janet, become beings with will and soul? What will become of them? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1052 "2019-02-09T20:14:04Z")
Don’t forget that Derek is helping out Janet by creating people himself. Derek is still imperfect, so there’s no telling what kinds of people he’s made. Maybe they’re all carrying around giant martini glasses full of olives. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1053 "2019-06-08T15:30:04Z")
Reviving this thread (which is, I think, the latest one about the show) to link to an article in which show runner Michael Schur [announced](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/good-place-end-season-4-nbc-1207303) that the upcoming fourth season will be the last one. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1054 "2019-06-08T16:21:29Z")
I’m glad to see that there’s a plan for a definitive ending, as sad as I’ll be to see the show go. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1055 "2019-06-09T14:21:46Z")
That’s very good news. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1056 "2019-06-10T16:30:46Z")
Is one season enough for Jason to deal with the fact that Bortles no longer plays for the Jaguars? ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1057 "2019-06-10T16:44:45Z")
Luckily the new Jags QB (Nick Foles) is also “kind of okay, maybe, I don’t know, it’s being debated among experts, it’s confusing.” Although, he does have a Super Bowl ring. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1058 "2019-06-10T16:58:33Z")
It was a smart move to end the series. It was a complicated concept and could only go on for so long. You could see it starting to flag this season (still with some high points like “Janet(s)”), and it was smart to bring it to an end. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1059 "2019-06-10T17:37:33Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Is one season enough for Jason to deal with the fact that Bortles no longer plays for the Jaguars? Worse, they’ve been doing this for a few hundred years, I believe. Bortles not only doesn’t play for the Jags…he’s dead. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1060 "2019-06-10T17:52:00Z")
Perhaps, but in the episodes that took place on Earth, it appeared to be more or less the present day. It didn’t look like it was intended to be hundreds of years in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/1061 "2019-06-10T18:27:19Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Worse, they’ve been doing this for a few hundred years, I believe. Bortles not only doesn’t play for the Jags…he’s dead. Jeremy Bearimy dude. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=54)