# The Good Place \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/142 "2017-01-09T13:29:37Z")
Missed it when it aired the other night. Watched it on DVR over the weekend. Chidi being unable to make even the smallest decision was hilarious. “You just filibustered recess!” I liked Jason’s description of himself as a “professional amateur DJ”. Also Tahani telling Fake Eleanor about her favorite TV show - “It’s been on for 16 years. They’ve done almost 30 episodes!” ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/143 "2017-01-09T16:38:00Z")
I loved how (fake)Eleanor thought that maybe Jianyu was her soulmate, only to quickly realize how ridiculous that thought was during Jianyu’s wedding to Janet. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/144 "2017-01-13T09:10:46Z")
If I understand it right, Fake Eleanor got over half the “good point” credit over the course of a day or so fror doing weak stuff like opening doors and throwing parties, that it took living paragon Real Eleanor to accrue in her entire life. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/145 "2017-01-13T11:35:53Z")
No, nothing she had done counted. She got all those points by sacrificing herself to go to the Bad Place in order to save everyone else. The whole dying to save someone else turned up a notch. ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/146 "2017-01-13T15:53:24Z")
I love how Jason thought Michael was Janet’s father, and how Janet had to keep reminding Jason that she’s not a girl. And that Jason died doing what he loved: a bunch of whippits. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/147 "2017-01-13T16:26:38Z")
Jason’s buddy (something boi?) delivering the safe in that weird Mario Bros disguise was hilarious. But if they were so broke, where did they get the money for a safe? (Or whippits?) ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/148 "2017-01-13T16:56:55Z")
I’m loving Janet more and more each episode. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/149 "2017-01-13T18:37:54Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Jason’s buddy (something boi?) delivering the safe in that weird Mario Bros disguise was hilarious. But if they were so broke, where did they get the money for a safe? (Or whippits?) Pill boi. Don’t know where they got that fancy safe but whippets aren’t exactly expensive. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/150 "2017-01-14T00:36:18Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Real Jianyu is out there though. That should be interesting. If I caught what Michael said about him correctly, the real Jianyu is actually still alive. I suppose he might still show up at some point, but there’s apparently no need to rescue him from the Bad Place as with “Real” Eleanor. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/151 "2017-01-14T00:41:44Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > If I understand it right, Fake Eleanor got over half the “good point” credit over the course of a day or so fror doing weak stuff like opening doors and throwing parties, that it took living paragon Real Eleanor to accrue in her entire life. She was at ~-4000 and got up to, maybe, -1500 with minor acts. She didn’t get up to ~+1,000,000 until she sacrificed herself. Did I hear right that Mindy lives alone in the neutral zone (aka the medium place)? Brian ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/152 "2017-01-14T08:23:28Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > No, nothing she had done counted. She got all those points by sacrificing herself to go to the Bad Place in order to save everyone else. The whole dying to save someone else turned up a notch. Yeah, I had interpereted it as the points effectively being frozen when her motivation was impure, and then being “cashed in” when the motivation changed. Oh well, pobody’s nerfect. ---
**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/153 "2017-01-14T11:12:56Z")
I loved the episode, but, what bugs me, if all those other people are really as good as they are supposed to be, why do they dislike Eleanor and resent the events she caused so much? When they were alive, they dealt with much worse and forgave much worse. So why don’t they just get over it? After all, there aren’t any real consequences in The Good Place. So you got hit with a turkey leg while you’re flying and crash into a wall. You aren’t hurt. Tahani’s motives aren’t pure, either. She was trying to get her parents’ love and approval while alive, and even in the afterlife is constantly looking for attention, approval, and applause. I know, I’m overthinking and nitpicking. I love this show. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/154 "2017-01-14T11:19:29Z")
> [@Tapiotar](#): > > I know, I’m overthinking and nitpicking. I don’t think you are. I have a feeling this disconnect will be bought up. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/155 "2017-01-14T16:25:00Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Did I hear right that Mindy lives alone in the neutral zone (aka the medium place)? That’s what I heard as well. I am curious to find out what sort of person Mindy is, because if she’s the sole inhabitant of the neutral zone that suggests she’s _not_ just average. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/156 "2017-01-14T17:42:26Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > That’s what I heard as well. I am curious to find out what sort of person Mindy is, because if she’s the sole inhabitant of the neutral zone that suggests she’s _not_ just average. Well, maybe she is the only one who is average. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/157 "2017-01-14T18:45:26Z")
> [@GaryM](#): > > Well, maybe she is the only one who is average. I meant “average” in the sense of typical or normal, but you may be right that we’ll learn she’s the one person who’s precisely in the middle of the good/bad scale. It’s interesting to think about exactly what that would mean in the moral system presented by _The Good Place_. Maybe Mindy’s actions while alive were all morally neutral so she never gained or lost points, or maybe her good deeds and bad deeds were of equal weight and thus cancelled each other out. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/158 "2017-01-14T23:21:38Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > No, nothing she had done counted. She got all those points by sacrificing herself to go to the Bad Place in order to save everyone else. The whole dying to save someone else turned up a notch. It makes sense that Fake Eleanor would earn way more points for volunteering for The Bad Place than a living person would for “merely” sacrificing their life. After all Fake Eleanor knows exactly what’s in store for for the rest of eternity, but is doing it anyway. Pobody on Narth could possibly do the same. Also, we’re finally going to see The Medium Place. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/159 "2017-01-15T03:32:46Z")
What I don’t understand, is why now that Michael knows that Jianyu is Jason, haven’t they at least shared the blame of all the mix-ups with him? Or acknowledge that since a least a couple of things have gone wrong, maybe the issues aren’t with either Fake Eleanor or Jason, but with Michael? StG ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/160 "2017-01-15T07:43:39Z")
Good point. Wasn’t Jason most likely the cause of at least one of the disasters? The sinkhole for example. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/161 "2017-01-15T09:09:29Z")
My absolute favorite bit is the revelation that the real Jianyu is as big an idiot as Jason is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=9)