# The Good Wife, current season

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 20, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241 "2015-10-20T16:13:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/21 "2015-10-28T13:31:05Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Observation: Diane’s hair had gotten better over the years and Alicia’s had gotten worse.

I saw an interview with Julianna Margulies. She’s wearing wigs on the show. Her real hair is much less straight.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/22 "2015-10-29T22:28:44Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> BTW, if you’re not watching the current season, you might want to, as Margo Martindale is in the cast. Mainly she is playing against Eli Gold.

I don’t know her, but her role so far has been beyond awful. She comes across as an idiot. Putting Veronica and Alicia on a cooking show? No pro would make that mistake. So she talked to Jackie and Grace. Show her doing something politically astute. Or better yet dump the plot line.

The third episode creates an intriguing question the show didn’t touch. Does a lawyer have to obey confidentiality if the client isn’t a client? The actual plot in which she causes problems for herself by not talking about Howard but does about the judge was glaringly insulting, but they could return to this as an interesting example of the kind of shows they used to do.

Bond court. Bad justice. Got it. Please tell me that the end of episode four means that they’re doing it.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/23 "2016-05-03T02:08:59Z")

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Next week, May 8, 2016 is the final show of the final season.

FINALLY. This is one of those that I keep watching in spite of myself.  
Guesses on the jury’s verdict?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/24 "2016-05-03T03:20:28Z")

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Guilty, but Alicia walks out anyway and leaves the firm to run off with her True Love. Honestly, all during the chat between Lucca and Jason, I kept thinking: Take Lucca and run for it! She’s prettier, sexier, and not a moody jackass.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/25 "2016-05-03T17:48:36Z")

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I like that ending.

How about not guilty, and when Alicia tells Jason she’s now available, he says he’s running off with Lucca?

I do think the verdict will be not guilty but the episode will end leaving us wondering whether Alicia and Jason wind up together.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/26 "2016-05-03T18:37:06Z")

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Guilty. Jason thinks Alicia will stand by her husband while he’s in prison. But it can’t end that way, or else there’s no difference between Alicia at the beginning of the series versus Alicia now.

She’ll end up with Jason. I’m not invested in their relationship at all, but I am curious what will happen to the firm.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/27 "2016-05-03T21:09:19Z")

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Not guilty. I figure the last scene will mimic the first one, with Peter giving a press conference, but this time Alicia doesn’t join him.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/28 "2016-05-03T21:32:55Z")

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That sounds likely.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/29 "2016-05-09T12:56:35Z")

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Has there ever been a more depressing series finale?

Did ANYONE end up happy? Well, maybe Will, but he’s dead!

The whole thing was such a downer - even seemed filmed in subdued tones. Yeah, I guess there are limited laughter/patter opportunities in plea deals/acceptances, but in the end her husband is convicted and resigns, she loses the other guy, gets slapped by her partner, who’s marriage takes a major hit… Meanwhile, she doesn’t even know that TPTB have plans for her to run for some unspecified office.

I guess the only person who comes close to positive situation is Cary, who finally gets to take off that tie as a “guest lecturer” in a law school.

The final scene essentially said, “Life sucks, so I’ll just adjust my armor, repress my emotions, and stride forward to continue the struggle, to no apparent purpose other than to survive.”

Couldn’t believe what a bad taste this left in my mouth.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/30 "2016-05-09T13:41:15Z")

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Well, **borschevsky** was _almost_ correct as to how it ended.

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/31 "2016-05-09T14:15:25Z")

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I have really liked this show; but by the last 5 episodes I was just soooo tired of the same old tired repetitive story writing. I thought Lucca brought a nice fresh life into the show; but then she ended up as an associate blah blah blah… ☹ I have the last 3 episodes queued up to watch, and I can’t bring myself to watch them. I went ahead and intentionally looked for the final episode spoilers and I’m glad I didn’t bother. I’m going to free my saved episodes to the giant bit bucket in the sky.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/32 "2016-05-09T15:13:53Z")

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The show stopped being _The Good Wife_ when Alicia started her affair with Will. I know the audience loved it, but it robbed her of her moral high ground. Peter had reformed, found religion, passed that on to his daughter despite Alicia’s presence, and was never shown cheating on her. In the finale he still denied ever sleeping with anyone else.

True, the awful, insane plot lines that followed were killers. Carey’s going to go to jail! Well, we know he’s not. But he does! Hey, a last-minute unbelievable twist and he’s not! Alicia is going to be State’s Attorney! Well, we know she’s not. But she wins! Hey, a last-minute unbelievable twist and she’s out! Finale: Peter’s going to jail! Well, we know he’s not. But he’s guilty! Hey, fifty-seven unbelievable twists later, he’s not. Get a new plot arc you idiots!

The point is that the audience could accept Alicia and Will because he was her One True Love and that conquers all in TV Land. After the showrunners killed him they had no choice but to trot out a series of substitute Wills. Alicia must be happy, after all. Every one failed for the obvious reason that she was a married women betraying her husband and presenting herself publicly as a happily married couple. No matter how modern and emancipated they said she was, their own premise undercut her every action. She was a moral sewer no different from every other compromiser on the show, and worse than some.

The showrunners never found a way out of this trap. They merely deepened the soap opera aspects to hide the reality under never-ending action, the idiocy of which was brought together in the last episode where Alicia’s law partner is defending her husband while the investigator she’s sleeping with is trying to clear him and the partner’s husband is a star witness except his mistress is testifying for the prosecution in front of a judge who hates him while… Yuck.

_The Good Wife_ stopped a few seasons ago. I stopped watching _The West Wing_ after Aaron Sorkin left because it became a different show. I should have stopped here as well. Some of the cases were fun; I let that be enough.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/33 "2016-05-09T15:34:44Z")

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It was satisfying to watch Diane bitch-slap Alicia. And I give the writers credit for not wrapping everything up in a neat bow. But they overdid it with the Ghost of Will scenes. Those scenes really underscored how the show never recovered after his death.

It used to be a great ensemble effort, but the last two seasons were All About Alicia. I can’t help but wonder what went on behind the scenes with Margulies and the rest of the cast.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/34 "2016-05-09T15:42:58Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Well, **borschevsky** was _almost_ correct as to how it ended.

Yep. Just far enough off that I can’t claim to have predicted it. 🙂

I think I’ve said before on here that I think it’s best to watch this show sort of superficially. There are fun characters and some good acting, with some fun plotting, but things don’t really hold up beyond that.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/35 "2016-05-09T15:44:14Z")

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Watching the last episode was like watching water circling the bathtub drain–glug-glug-glug.

Exactly why did Diane slap Alicia? It was Lucca who trashed Diane’s husband on the stand.

I did call it here:

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> …the episode will end leaving us wondering whether Alicia and Jason wind up together.

I’m glad it’s over.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/36 "2016-05-09T15:46:20Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> True, the awful, insane plot lines that followed were killers.

You forgot to mention the endless “who is partners in what firm this week”! 😃

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/37 "2016-05-09T16:09:25Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Exactly why did Diane slap Alicia? It was Lucca who trashed Diane’s husband on the stand.

Lucca only did so at Alicia’s prompting. I don’t think Lucca even knew that Kurt (Diane’s husband) had the affair with the blonde protege.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/38 "2016-05-09T16:11:19Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> You forgot to mention the endless “who is partners in what firm this week”! 😃

I couldn’t fit it in!

And we’re seeing yet another break up in the future. How can Diane and Alicia be partners now?

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**Author:** ![toast\_pakora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ec8ea/32.png) [@toast\_pakora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toast_pakora)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/39 "2016-05-09T17:22:34Z")

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The show runners wanted out after this season and probably the cast was only signed for x seasons as well. There was a lot of discussion this past winter whether it would be renewed despite the Kings saying they’d only plotted for this many seasons. Like if CBS threw enough money at the production staff and the actors were willing, it might continue under a new show runner. When it came out that, yes, this is the final season, I expected the finale to be… more final. This episode seemed like they left everything hanging, just like real life! but the show could easily go on from here. It’s like they left the door open even if no one was interested in continuing.

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-wife-current-season/735241/40 "2016-05-09T19:14:21Z")

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I would have ended the series with Alicia murdering Peter and running off into the sunset with Kalinda.

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