It makes them more racist, it makes them more homophobic, it makes them more anti science, it makes them more sexist, it makes them more awful in every single way a human being can be awful.
There is nothing about being far right wing that requires you to be racist or anti-science or sexist or homophobic. That’s not ideology. There are left-wingers with the same problems, but those are personal problems, not a matter of their ideology.
Tea Partiers could be racist, but if they are, it’s not their conservatism that is making them racist.
Nope. But embracing all of those stances gets them votes.
I think it’s the Democrats’ stances that gets the Republicans the voters they are getting. If Obama nixes Keystone that’ll push the working class further and further from the Democratic Party. They’ll be left with the idle poor and rich limousine liberals as their coalition.
If I were Bricker I’d make you put money on that bet.
I wouldn’t bet on it because there’s no way to predict short term movements in the electorate. It’s less a prediction than an explanation of why the white working class is abandoning the Democrats. And why eventually minority working people will follow. Democrats just aren’t looking out for taxpayers.
You may not have noticed this, but Kanye West is an idiot, and his opinions on any and every topic should just be ignored. Yes, many very bad things were said about George W. Bush during his presidency, and most of them were true. He was a bad president. That does not, however, mean that everything about him that could be bad, was bad. There were some things about him that were fine, or even good. His political opponents just don’t believe that there were enough good things about him to outweigh the bad.
I’m calling attention to it because not merely it is 100% factually wrong as always, but it’s factually wrong in a way that’s very revealing of your thoughts.
After all, in a thread where we’re talking about race you exclude the white working class and assign to the Democrats the “idle poor.” That’s not merely deeply racist in an extremely ugly way, but it’s a perfect echo of the group Republican mind on the subject. You couldn’t better have proven Republicans are racists if you signed all your posts, regards, KKK.
Piffle. The Keystone Pipeline wouldn’t do shit for the working class. The Keystone Myths aren’t believed by anyone who isn’t a Republican apologist.
In Republican-land, the white working class who votes for Dems ARE “limousine liberals,” don’cha know. Remember the big fuss a while ago about the filthy overpaid fat-cat teachers and union workers?
There can be if your brand of far-RW is social/religious/cultural.
Look, regardless of platform or policy, the GOP is at any rate a party that includes racists in significant numbers; because it is a fact of American history that the GOP is where the white racists went, when they exited the Democrats in reaction to civil-rights legislation, etc., in the 1960s and 1970s. Many of them going there by way of George Wallace’s American Independence Party in 1968, but then voting for Nixon in 1972. No doubt they have grown somewhat less racist in the decades since, as American society and culture have changed, but do you really think they’ve all outgrown it entirely?
Parties are unlike businesses in that they are driven by ideology, in terms of which “success” is defined. The GOP is being pulled to the right by an internal ideological faction which appears heedless of how that affects the party’s prospects in the general elections.
Not in favor of Tea-Party-style conservatism. You’ll find that won’t fly with the general electorate outside a few solid-red districts and counties.
This was probably an accident, but tampering with text inside the QUOTE tags is prohibited on the SDMB.
Please be more careful in the future.
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Anyone who doesn’t know how skewed the employment/unemployment numbers have been over the past few years is either in total denial, ignorant, or living in a bubble- outside the small business community where 'hiring is essential to real economic growth.
Quit trying to me what I know and don’t know. You read my reply and I stand by it.
And personally, I could consider America’s Public Schools to now be part of those so called “reeducation camps” for those prohibited from having "school choices.’
I’ve more recently come to know, say and believe the following: liberalism/socialism/fascism can be likened unto shades of the same color.
Ideologies favoring centralized power always start with Utopian aspirations, but end up smoldering on the ash heap of history.
A couple of names for you - Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson… Get my “point?”
Apologize in advance as I just shortened a quote from someone I was responding to. I thought it was a bit lengthy and chose not to reply specifically to it. Please feel free to delete my reply, as I didn’t notice your post informing me of the rules prior to submitting it.
Sincerely, Conservian
Ideologies favoring centralized power are on the right end, not the left. Does the phrase “unitary executive” ring any bells?
Fascinating. Do please tell us more.
Including the part where the Democrats wrote all the rules the Dept of Labor follows in issuing those reports.
The past few years have been fascinating to a language watcher. When Obama took office, the right competed with themselves to hurl insults at him, leading to his being called both a fascist and a communist simultaneously without any regard for the inherent contradiction. Knowledgeable people of course made fun of this elementary mistake, but derision from the outside about the inaccuracy of a “fact” doesn’t lead to disbelief in that “fact”; it leads to attempts to make the “fact” true. That lead to concerted efforts to assert that fascism and communism are really both ideologies of the left and one and the same, equivalent also to socialism. People on the outside still laugh, but fascist and communist are both insults. As long as people use them to mean “bad” without any deeper meaning, they stick, unlike asserting that Obama was born in Kenya, which is both too silly to get any traction and not a deeply-seated trope in American culture.
So I get that, but most of the rest of Conservian’s rant was fuzzy. I guess I’m not up-to-date on my right wing code. I pick it up fast, though. If he sticks around I’ll be able to act as interpreter.
Maybe so, but when you assert that official or generally accepted figures about something are wrong, which is a pretty radical thing to assert, then the burden is on you to bring the cite or argument, as I hope you will understand.