# The GOP doesn't seem to be a very healthy party these days. It's just racist fury & cultural rage **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 3, 2012, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274 "2012-08-03T09:52:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/121 "2012-08-06T04:23:16Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > [http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/06/tea-party-joins-canary-party-in-opposing-vaccine-mandates-in-california.html?cid=6a00d8357f3f2969e2016767eb0c2e970b](http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/06/tea-party-joins-canary-party-in-opposing-vaccine-mandates-in-california.html?cid=6a00d8357f3f2969e2016767eb0c2e970b) > BTW [ageofautism.org](http://ageofautism.org) is an anti-vaccine outfit, A pit thread on Wakefield and the anti-vaccers makes clear to me that they may not hit their kids, but the abuse they in the end suffer under the ideologies their parents follow does qualify as such in my opinion. I concede the point there-some Tea Partiers are really in with the anti-vaxer crowd (for that matter see Michelle Bachmann on the HPV vaccine). But at the same time keep in mind that the Tea Party isn’t defined by some one central organization and such anti-vaxer views are hardly mainstream in the GOP. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/122 "2012-08-06T11:13:28Z")
It appears there’s some controversy in the Tea Party movement. Should government employees permit parents to administer corporal punishment, or should the employees perform it [themselves](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/texas-republican-party-2012-platform-education_n_1632097.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/123 "2012-08-09T07:19:35Z")
[quote=“Maastricht, post:10, topic:630274”] Well, try an historical parallel. Remember how widespread "leftism"was in the seventies? The pendulum has just swung back again. (snip) I think we mis-remember and overgeneralize about this. Just a reminder: Presidents of the 70s: Nixon, Ford, Carter (one term), Reagan in 1980. Not exactly widespread leftism in terms of results of national elections… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/124 "2012-08-09T14:02:14Z")
> [@badger5149](#): > > I can never understand how the republican part can be seen as racist. Don’t you? That started with [Goldwater](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater#Policies) and accelerated with [Nixon.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy) Ultimately, over the course of the 1960s and 1970s, the GOP is where most of America’s white racists found their home. As for the [Tea Party,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=650832) less said the better. > [@](#): > > The dems have moved too far left . . . :rolleyes: What, specifically, gives you **that** preposterous idea? Not Obama’s pathetic half-assed health-care reform, certainly. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/125 "2012-08-09T14:38:09Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > :rolleyes: What, specifically, gives you **that** preposterous idea? Not Obama’s pathetic half-assed health-care reform, certainly. Perhaps because we are not all Centrists. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Untoward\_Parable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Untoward\_Parable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Untoward_Parable)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/126 "2012-08-09T16:41:57Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Little Nemo > > “calling for the harassing penetrative sexual exams for women wishing to have abortions”? > > Seems to me any woman wishing to have an abortion has already **passed** that exam. Wow. Really? You really posted that? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/127 "2012-08-09T20:50:18Z")
> [@Untoward\_Parable](#): > > Wow. Really? You really posted that? Aw, I thought it was just a cutesy quip. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/128 "2012-08-09T21:52:50Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Aw, I thought it was just a cutesy quip. I couldn’t decide whether to cap it with “[rimshot]” or “::d&r::”. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/129 "2012-08-09T22:24:45Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Oh my god, it appears that the proposed change is at the request of the states and would give them more freedom to experiment with programs to get TANF recipients back to work…:rolleyes: You missed the best bit, from Bill Clinton’s statement on the bill: > [@Slick Willy](#): > > Governor Romney released an ad today alleging that the Obama administration had weakened the work requirements of the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. That is not true. > > The act emerged after years of experiments at the state level, including my work as Governor of Arkansas beginning in 1980. When I became President, I granted waivers from the old law to 44 states to implement welfare to work strategies before welfare reform passed. > > After the law was enacted, every state was required to design a plan to move people into the workforce, along with more funds to help pay for training, childcare and transportation. As a result, millions of people moved from welfare to work. > > The recently announced waiver policy was originally requested by the Republican governors of Utah and Nevada to achieve more flexibility in designing programs more likely to work in this challenging environment. The Administration has taken important steps to ensure that the work requirement is retained and that waivers will be granted only if a state can demonstrate that more people will be moved into work under its new approach. The welfare time limits, another important feature of the 1996 act, will not be waived. > > \*\*The Romney ad is especially disappointing because, as governor of Massachusetts, he requested changes in the welfare reform laws that could have eliminated time limits altogether. \*\*We need a bipartisan consensus to continue to help people move from welfare to work even during these hard times, not more misleading campaign ads. You really need to stop believing political attack ads, **adaher**. Or indeed anything the Romney campaign says, since his campaign staff seem to live in Bizarro World. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/130 "2012-08-09T22:52:30Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > You really need to stop believing political attack ads, **adaher**. Or indeed anything the Romney campaign says, since his campaign staff seem to live in Bizarro World. You really think he believes this stuff? ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/131 "2012-08-10T01:27:10Z")
> [@Untoward\_Parable](#): > > Wow. Really? You really posted that? . I thought that was pretty low. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/132 "2012-08-10T02:31:37Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > . > > I thought that was pretty low. Yes, but it is the 'Dope. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274/133 "2012-08-10T10:31:09Z")
> [@Untoward\_Parable](#): > > Wow. Really? You really posted that? That reminded me of hospital workers telling women in delivery hey you spread your legs nine months ago and now you are complaining? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gop-doesnt-seem-to-be-a-very-healthy-party-these-days-its-just-racist-fury-cultural-rage/630274.md?page=6)