# The governor of Massachusetts has WHAT?!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 11, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387 "2011-08-11T22:43:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/1 "2011-08-11T22:43:03Z")

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[Read it](http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/gallery/localmansions?pg=5) and, er… weep.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/2 "2011-08-11T23:19:49Z")

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Wow that whole story just struck me as… bitter.

What’s the complaint? They’re ugly, they’re too large, they spent too much money on them?

I presume there is no question that the govenor spent his own money on the house, not the state’s so why is this even an issue?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/3 "2011-08-11T23:21:52Z")

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> [@Sal\_Ammoniac](#):
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> [Read it](http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/gallery/localmansions?pg=5) and, er… weep.

Yeah, I’m not seeing the outrage. Gov. Patrick has money and he built himself a big house. What’s wrong with a squash court if he wants it?

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/4 "2011-08-11T23:25:08Z")

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> The original plans allowed Patrick to build a 24-room house, though now it has been scaled back to a mere 10 rooms, **cum pool** and 1,000-foot driveway.

:eek: 😃

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/5 "2011-08-11T23:30:51Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> :eek: 😃

Okay, maybe now I see the outrage.

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**Author:** ![lazybratsche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ba8739/32.png) [@lazybratsche](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lazybratsche)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/6 "2011-08-12T00:06:44Z")

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I think it’s just a complaint about gauche new money ruining the neighborhood for the old money. In particular one of the complaints is that there’s an “aesthetically offensive” mansion within eyesight of “_the_ country club”. Also, lots of comments about the “vulgar” lack of modesty on display by these particular rich dudes.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/7 "2011-08-12T00:12:49Z")

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> [@lazybratsche](#):
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> I think it’s just a complaint about gauche new money ruining the neighborhood for the old money. In particular one of the complaints is that there’s an “aesthetically offensive” mansion within eyesight of “_the_ country club”. Also, lots of comments about the “vulgar” lack of modesty on display by these particular rich dudes.

Move your eyes up three posts from this one.  
Roddy

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/8 "2011-08-12T00:20:23Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> Okay, maybe now I see the outrage.

> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Move your eyes up three posts from this one.  
> Roddy

It’s the cum pool, isn’t it? I missed that the first time through.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/9 "2011-08-12T00:22:00Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> Okay, maybe now I see the outrage.

Oh I don’t know; that must provide a fairly large number of men with a minimum wage job to keep it filled.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/10 "2011-08-12T00:58:47Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Oh I don’t know; that must provide a fairly large number of men with a minimum wage job to keep it filled.

Minimum wage? I think you’d be able to find people who’d pay more than that to take part.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/11 "2011-08-12T01:13:48Z")

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Is that a typo Or some more weird Mass. slang?

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**Author:** ![svd678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@svd678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/svd678)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/12 "2011-08-12T01:24:43Z")

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“Cum” is the Latin word for with, evidently what it means here. You thought something else?

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/13 "2011-08-12T01:25:21Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Is that a typo Or some more weird Mass. slang?

cum – Latin for “with”. Author was either trying to be classy and FAILed or was making a little joke, in which case we all saw what he did there.

Frankly, if Patrick needs someplace to keep his pet sperm whale, who are we to complain?

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/14 "2011-08-12T01:26:21Z")

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Look, I’m as happy to sneer at a rich guy from Massachusettes as anyone. But this doesn’t even register on my meter.

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> Is that a typo Or some more weird Mass. slang?

It’s Latin for “with.” And every bit as pretentious as any of the houses at which the columnist turned up his nose.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/15 "2011-08-12T01:32:53Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Is that a typo Or some more weird Mass. slang?

So you’ve never heard of a johnny cum lately? I think it’s slang for nouveau riche.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/16 "2011-08-12T04:35:12Z")

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You don’t want to offend all those Catholic voters in Boston by wasting the stuff. So you got to get creative in figuring out a way to store it.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/17 "2011-08-12T12:53:06Z")

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Alas, one more piece of evidence of the lack of literacy in America.

I’m talking about this thread, not the ad.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/18 "2011-08-12T13:34:44Z")

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Actually, the article is off. There shouldn’t be a comma in the phrase “house _cum_ pool.” Putting a comma there suggests that, yes, there is a spooge depository out back.

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**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/19 "2011-08-12T13:38:25Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Alas, one more piece of evidence of the lack of literacy in America.
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> I’m talking about this thread, not the ad.

The problem here is not the lack of literacy, but the opposite – too much literacy, I’d say.

And I’ll point out in passing that the phrase in question appears, unchanged, in Alex Beam’s column in today’s Boston Globe.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-governor-of-massachusetts-has-what/592387/20 "2011-08-12T13:43:05Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Oh I don’t know; that must provide a fairly large number of men with a minimum wage job to keep it filled.

The question is, are they going to cum quietly? If they’re edumacated, they could cum laude.

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