# The Graveyard of Television Crib-Death

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 31, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394 "2015-01-31T01:05:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/141 "2015-02-02T02:14:47Z")

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> [@ch51](#):
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> My suggestion:
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> Cupid - late 90’s. Fantastic show
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> Cupid is a 1998–1999 American comedy-drama series created by Rob Thomas, which featured Paula Marshall as Dr. Claire Allen, a Chicago psychologist who is given charge of a man named Trevor Hale (Jeremy Piven). Hale believes he is Cupid, sent down from Mt. Olympus by Zeus to connect 100 couples without his powers, as a punishment for his arrogance. Filmed on location in Chicago - lasted one season. Never released on DVD.
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> Remade in the late 00’s - I did not watch - lasted 6 episodes.

OMG! Now you’ve done it! **THE PAULA MARSHALL CURSE!**

There is not enough time in the next week for me to pretty-up a list of Paula Marshall’s 1-or-less-than-one-season TV shows–I think it’s at least 8!! I love her to death and it’s not her fault they all tanked, but, talk about bad luck! :eek:

See for yourself: [Paula Marshall](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005191/) on IMdB:

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/142 "2015-02-02T03:29:16Z")

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Meanwhile, across the pond, [_Heil, Honey, I’m Home!_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heil_Honey_I'm_Home!) was canceled after 1 episode. Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun live next door to Arny and Rosa Goldenstein.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/143 "2015-02-02T03:32:18Z")

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[_The Tim Conway Show_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tim_Conway_Show_(1980_TV_series)) got a year and two months. I think it deserved more.

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/144 "2015-02-02T03:35:47Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> John Schuck’s place in history is secured: he’s the first actor to say “Fuck” in a mainstream motion picture (MASH).

Whenever I see Schuck I first think of him as the lovable flunky from Rock Hudson’s _McMillan & Wife_, then I think of him as a Klingon (from _STIV:TVY_ and _Enterprise_).

> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> [The Ben Stiller Show](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103360/?ref_=nv_sr_1), a prime-time sketch comedy show on Fox. On the average It was good but not great, but it did have some good bits and led to Bob Odenkirk and David Cross teaming up to create the better, edgier _Mr. Show_.

I though this show was great, ahead of its time really (also starred Andy Dick BTW). Fox never believed in it and gave it a shitty time slot. Think I have them all on a VHS someplace…

> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [_Delta House._](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_House) Of course it was doomed – trying to move _Animal House_ to the small screen during primetime meant watering down all the sex, drugs, etc. – one running gag was Pinto’s girlfriend _not_ having sex with him – but it was better than it should have been, all things considered.

I had high hopes for this as a kid (I’d seen Animal House on HBO). The pilot was good but then it petered-out. I read that this was because only the pilot was written by the National Lampoon writers.

> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> “[The Invisible Man](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072515/?ref_=tt_rec_tt)” David (Man From UNCLE) McCallum. The weekly adventures of Dr. Daniel Westin, an invisible scientist working as an agent for a private thinktank. 13 episodes.

Yeah, way better than NBC’s version, the goofy _Gemini Man_ (though I liked it as an 11-year-old!) A&E used to run this show and some of the others mentioned here in a slot they called _Brilliant, But Cancelled_.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/145 "2015-02-02T03:48:03Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> [The Ben Stiller Show](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103360/?ref_=nv_sr_1), a prime-time sketch comedy show on Fox. On the average It was good but not great, but it did have some good bits and led to Bob Odenkirk and David Cross teaming up to create the better, edgier _Mr. Show_.

Won the Emmy for Outstanding Writing nine months after it was canceled. (And those writers are Bob Odenkirk and David Cross, like you said; along with Ben Stiller, like you’d expect; plus everyone else from Judd Apatow to Starburns!)

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/146 "2015-02-02T05:06:31Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Meanwhile, across the pond, [_Heil, Honey, I’m Home!_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heil_Honey_I'm_Home!) was canceled after 1 episode. Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun live next door to Arny and Rosa Goldenstein.

I would give all four of my eyeteeth to see that. Imagine John Cleese as Adolf?

> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> Whenever I see Schuck I first think of him as the lovable flunky from Rock Hudson’s _McMillan & Wife_, then I think of him as a Klingon (from _STIV:TVY_ and _Enterprise_).

My wife binge-watched _McMillan & Wife_ some months ago so, of course, I checked in occasionally. Susan St. James was great, Schuck was great, Nancy Walker was REAL great. Rock Hudson acted like he didn’t want to be there. Am I imagining things?

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/147 "2015-02-02T05:27:07Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> [The Michael Richards Show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY_n-Ynaa7g) only ran for for 2 months. 1 of the 10 episodes made was never even aired.
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> I had really looked forward to it when it first came out. But man, did it suck!☹

The “Seinfeld” curse continues:

“[Bob Patterson](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285342/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_60)” Jason Alexander. 10 episodes filmed, 5 shown.

“[Listen Up](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411007/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_48)” Jason Alexander and Malcolm-Jamal Warner (who wasn’t bad, at all). 22 episodes.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/148 "2015-02-02T05:33:24Z")

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A few more:

[Dweebs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dweebs_%28TV_series%29)(1995): a proto-_Big Bang Theory_ sitcom with a group of software dweebs (including their millionaire, Bill Gates/Sheldon Cooper-type boss, played by Peter Scolari) who hired a pretty non-geek woman as an office manager when they moved their company out of the garage. It had a very similar dynamic to BBT: the guys taught the technophobe girl about tech, while she taught them about normal human interaction. I loved this show. Only lasted a few episodes, with a few more that were never aired.

[Queen of Swords](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Swords_%28TV_series%29) (2000-01), an old-west fantasy about a female Zorro type. It also starred Peter Wingfield (Methos from _Highlander_).

[Peacemakers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacemakers_%28TV_series%29)(or as we call it in our house, _CSI: Horsie_) - a 2003 CSI-style police procedural set in the old west.

Unfortunately, it’s looking like _Constantine_ might end up on this list, but I’m not giving up hope yet.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/149 "2015-02-02T06:13:49Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> My wife binge-watched _McMillan & Wife_ some months ago so, of course, I checked in occasionally. Susan St. James was great, Schuck was great, Nancy Walker was REAL great. Rock Hudson acted like he didn’t want to be there. Am I imagining things?

Nope. I watched MacMillan the other week. St. James was cute and sexy, Shuck and Walker added just the right humor. I thought Mac as played by Hudson came across as a first-class asshole. What did his wife see in him?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/150 "2015-02-02T06:30:02Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> _ **American Gothic** _ - cool horror/drama about a mysterious small Southern town.

I loved that one! My best friend and I got hooked and we were so disappointed when it was cancelled.

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/151 "2015-02-02T16:58:27Z")

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Who remembers a show called “Flying Blind”? I can still sing the theme song and totally wanted to be Tea Leoni’s character.

There was also a really stupid show, I think it was called “Oops” or something, where these people survive a nuclear bomb and find their way to a farmhouse. Someone survives because they were in a bank vault, someone else survives because they were in a drive-thru in their Lada (IIRC), “the world’s safest car”. I’ve mentioned it here before.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/152 "2015-02-02T16:59:32Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> There was also a really stupid show, I think it was called “Oops” or something, where these people survive a nuclear bomb and find their way to a farmhouse. Someone survives because they were in a bank vault, someone else survives because they were in a drive-thru in their Lada (IIRC), “the world’s safest car”. I’ve mentioned it here before.

[Woops!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woops!)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/153 "2015-02-02T17:00:19Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> There’s one I vaguely remember from the '90s that was a sort of science-fictioney dark-conspiracy-theory show (trendy at the time, see [_Millennium_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_(TV_series))) . . . with a heroine, and a lot of symbolism, including the Kabbalistic [Tree of Life](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life_(Kabbalah)).

Anyone know it?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/154 "2015-02-02T17:01:54Z")

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[_Ivan the Terrible._](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_the_Terrible_(TV_series)) Family sitcom set in Soviet Moscow. 5 episodes.

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/155 "2015-02-02T17:06:55Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> [Woops!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woops!)

…it was a Volvo, thank you. I knew Lada didn’t sound right. No surprise here:

> [@](#):
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> In July 2002, TV Guide named Woops! the 42nd-worst TV show of all time.

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**Author:** ![infinitii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@infinitii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/infinitii)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/156 "2015-02-02T17:12:53Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Anyone know it?

VR.5?

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/157 "2015-02-02T17:52:57Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> I would give all four of my eyeteeth to see that.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/mf9jJx0NSjw/hqdefault.jpg "Heil Honey I'm Home Full Uncut Episode") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf9jJx0NSjw)

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Mary Tyler Moore has four:

“[The Mary Tyler Moore Hour](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078652/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_37)” 11 episodes.

“[Mary](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088562/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_31)” 13 episodes.

“[Annie McGuire](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094418/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_29)” 10 episodes.

“[New York News](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112094/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_24)” 13 episodes.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/159 "2015-02-02T17:56:41Z")

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[_Over There._](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over_There_(TV_series)) Highly topical show about American troops in Iraq. Maybe **too** topical. 13 episodes.

[_Space: Above and Beyond._](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space:_Above_and_Beyond) Space war. 1 season, 24 eps.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-graveyard-of-television-crib-death/711394/160 "2015-02-02T18:00:18Z")

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> [@infinitii](#):
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> VR.5?

[That’s the one.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR.5) Damn! Two months it lasted!

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