# The Great Apple Cider Vinegar Plague of 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 4, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839 "2012-04-04T18:30:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/21 "2012-04-05T04:09:01Z")
> [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > My co-worker has been hitting it lately. “It draws the fat right out of your body!” > > Sure it does, dear. Yeah, it’s one thing to think that though, and another thing to go off of your blood pressure medication because you feel better. I am worried for people honestly… I didn’t realize so many people I worked with were suckers for this sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![svd678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@svd678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/svd678)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/22 "2012-04-05T04:16:56Z")
No one seems to notice that “apple cider vinegar” is a double redundancy. Cider is the juice of apples; if something is made of something else then it needs extra clarification; standard vinegar is made from (apple) cider; if its made with something else, that needs explanation. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/23 "2012-04-05T06:04:22Z")
> [@Capt\_Kirk](#): > > wow cool site I had no idea it existed, sorry about the smell > Landlubber Capt Kirk > [@drewtwo99](#): > > Oh Crap! You guys know where I work now \<\_\<… > > Also… that’s all we do. Drive back and forth, back and forth, back and forth… for months and months 😃 LOL, it can be amazing the random people you meet on the internet and where they work - I am neighbors with the [now deceased] parents of one of the engineering chiefs on the Caroline Chouest when she was stationed with the NR1 in Groton. [do they still do steel beach BBQs, and can you fish off the back when off duty?] ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/24 "2012-04-05T15:11:22Z")
So I tried cider vinegar in water last night for my horrible sinus ailment. 1. It was quite tasty, actually. I had maybe two tablespoons with enough water to fill a highball glass and I’d totally drink that as a beverage if it’s safe for my tooth enamel and such (and considering I’ve been drinking diet Coke since I started on this whole diet thing I’m sure it can’t be as bad as all that.) But, 2) Yeah, my nasal exudations got thinner. Which was horrible and awful. I mean, maybe it’s better in the long run, but I was choking on post-nasal drip. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/25 "2012-04-05T16:07:18Z")
1. I was told specifically _not_ to take it that way because of the damage to your teeth, it will cause. 2. Yes, it _is_ worse than any Coke product, brush your teeth after taking it to avoid trouble. 3. You’re choking on it because there is so much, next time, if you take it at the onset, of your head cold, you can avoid this. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/26 "2012-04-05T18:57:36Z")
The girls at work are drinking this, too. About 4-6 ounces of hot vinegar sweetened with stevia. Ick. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/27 "2012-04-05T19:24:47Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > LOL, it can be amazing the random people you meet on the internet and where they work - I am neighbors with the [now deceased] parents of one of the engineering chiefs on the Caroline Chouest when she was stationed with the NR1 in Groton. > > [do they still do steel beach BBQs, and can you fish off the back when off duty?] Haha no… sadly. No BBQs or fishing off the back! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/28 "2012-04-05T19:35:55Z")
> [@detop](#): > > Can’t be that good. It doesn’t even deal with the heartbreak of psoriasis. Nope, it’s utterly fantastic [for psoriasis too.](http://www.psoriasis-aid.com/psoriasis/apple_cider_vinegar_psoriasis_treatment.html) :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/29 "2012-04-06T01:00:03Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Nope, it’s utterly fantastic [for psoriasis too.](http://www.psoriasis-aid.com/psoriasis/apple_cider_vinegar_psoriasis_treatment.html) :dubious: But, but, but… it still CAN’T be good. It doesn’t cure leprosy or, or, or stuttering. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/30 "2012-04-06T01:45:41Z")
Good news and bad news folks… The bad news is that less than a minute ago, I just saw our party manager get infected with the ACV Plague sweeping the ship. The guy giving it to him said, “It tastes like what it is: shit wine. It’s doable.” Yay! The good(ish) news is that my boss just emailed me and told me he needs me to start working in the North Sea… so I might get pulled off the Carolyn early. Not too excited about the move honestly but, hopefully there won’t be any ACV onboard. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/31 "2012-04-06T03:55:55Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > The good(ish) news is that my boss just emailed me and told me he needs me to start working in the North Sea… so I might get pulled off the Carolyn early. Not too excited about the move honestly but, hopefully there won’t be any ACV onboard. Hm north sea. Yay, if you have any scandanavians on board you get pickled herring smell …:eek: ---
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/32 "2012-04-06T04:41:28Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Hm north sea. Yay, if you have any scandanavians on board you get pickled herring smell …:eek: Yes, but you also get to eat pickled herring with sour cream on rye bread, and that stuff is great. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/33 "2012-04-06T06:19:06Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Nope, it’s utterly fantastic [for psoriasis too.](http://www.psoriasis-aid.com/psoriasis/apple_cider_vinegar_psoriasis_treatment.html) :dubious: Hehe, don’t laugh, but my mom has used ACV and salad oil, mixed together like a salad dressing \ as a tanning supplement for 40 years. She does not burn, and…her psoriasis clears up totally. We’re pretty sure it’s the whole sun thing doing that, and not the ACV, but…she’s never used anything else, so who knows. 😛 Worked for me too, when I did it, but I haven’t deliberately tanned in decades so…who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/34 "2012-04-06T07:25:07Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Also, Joe is selling these bottles for 5 bucks a pop to everyone on our ship. He says he pays 5.69 for them, but he believes so strongly in the power of it, he’s willing to sell it at a discount. How does he do it? Volume! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/35 "2012-04-06T12:44:20Z")
> [@detop](#): > > But, but, but… it still CAN’T be good. It doesn’t cure leprosy or, or, or stuttering. But Hippocrates considered leprosy and psoriasis to be the same thing, so you’ve got to think ACV works on leprosy too. And there’s no stuttering possible while you’re drinking ACV, so it cures that also. Bring 'em on, ACV cures them all. And if it doesn’t work, obviously you weren’t doing it right, or were using the wrong brand. It’s good for what ails you. ---
**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/36 "2012-04-07T12:48:10Z")
Summary of research on vinegar and blood pressure, tumors, and blood sugar, from [Medscape](http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/531649_3). Much of this research done in Japan, with rice vinegar. I’ve seen bottles of vinegar in the health sections of Japanese stores. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/37 "2012-04-07T14:56:36Z")
> [@Tapiotar](#): > > Summary of research on vinegar and blood pressure, tumors, and blood sugar, from > [Medscape](http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/531649_3). Much of this research done in Japan, with rice vinegar. I’ve seen bottles of vinegar in the health sections of Japanese stores. That site asks for a log in. Can you summarize, please? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/38 "2012-04-07T15:42:11Z")
[What I see](http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/531649_5) on Medscape (damn, that link requires signing up too) is a statement that the evidence for vinegar having any use in treating hypertension is “equivocal” (they say there may be some role for it in improving glycemic control in diabetes, depending on the outcome of future studies). Note that apple cider vinegar isn’t mentioned as a specific variety better than others. Here’s another article relating [“the sour truth”](http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0GCU/is_n6_v14/ai_20152545/?tag=content;col1) about apple cider vinegar and its claims of curing/treating various conditions. ---
**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839/39 "2012-04-07T19:33:50Z")
> [@Renee](#): > > That site asks for a log in. Can you summarize, please? Sorry about that. I got to that site through a search, and no log in was required. However, the research on vinegar in reducing blood pressure is inconclusive. However, it has some value in lowering the glycemic index of carbohydrates, when the vinegar is used with food or some taken before eating. I’ve seen this research reported in more than one reputable place over the last few years, though I don’t have time to search for cites right ow. This could be very useful for prediabetics, diabetics, and others with impaired carbohydrate metabolism. It may help combat obesity by reducing hunger, when taken before eating, though the evidence isn’t very strong. The Japanese researchers used rice vinegar, and I think some European studies have used wine vinegar. The acetic acid, which is the prime component of all vinegars, is the active agent. Vinegar diets have been popular fad diets for ages. Lord Byron popularized his vinegar diet in 1820. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-apple-cider-vinegar-plague-of-2012/617839.md?page=1)