# The Great British English vs US English Playoff

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**Created:** [September 10, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-british-english-vs-us-english-playoff/821123 "2018-09-10T20:45:19Z")\
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> [@chaika](#):
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> Another one:
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> Brit: macaroni cheese  
> US: macaroni and cheese
> 
> Result: US win.  
> Reason: Macaroni cheese just sounds odd. It would make as much sense to say fish chips, rather than fish and chips.

…Or one-hundred-ten. I mean, it’s obviously one hundred _and_ ten, right?

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Brit: Aluminium  
US: Aluminum

Result: The British spelling wins, because apart from the US and Canada that’s what it’s called.

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Brit: dual carriageway  
> US: freeway
> 
> This has to go to the Americans, just because “freeway” is so much more concise (though, TBCF, if you hear “duel carriageway”, it does describe traffic on the interstates rather well)

I thought the US equivalent was “divided road” (which I suppose you win as more plainly descriptive),and the British equivalent of “freeway” was “motorway” (which we win because only motor vehicles can use it, and I take it bikes and animals are equally restricted from a “freeway”).

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-british-english-vs-us-english-playoff/821123/24 "2018-09-11T08:51:48Z")

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UK:Tap  
US: Faucet  
Win: UK - short and sweet. And even the US uses tap for the _important_ liquids.

UK: boiler suit   
US: coveralls (South Africa: Overalls)  
Win: US. A Boiler suit sounds painful.

UK: candyfloss   
US: cotton candy  
Win : UK. Candyfloss _sounds_ lighter and airier.

UK: courgette   
US: zucchini  
Win: UK. Everything’s better in French.

UK: fringe  
US: bangs  
Win: UK - I wouldn’t want explosions anywhere near my hair. Plus fringe is descriptive.

UK: hairslide   
US: barrette  
Win: US - see _courgette_

UK: hen night   
US: bachelorette party  
Win: Neither - the UK one is horribly sexist, the US one has that horrible made-up pseudofrench word.

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Brit: Tuna  
US: Tuna fish

Result: British. Do you need to say “bovine beef” or “chicken poultry” in the US?  
(As a Canadian this is interesting because we’re always caught in the middle of all this stuff.)

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Well now I’ve got one.

UK: aubergine  
US: eggplant

I’m going to say UK wins this one, because it sounds _quite mysterious_.

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UK: trousers  
US: pants

UK win. Because it sounds better when verbified. Compare:

“I gave him £5 to buy me some crumpets, but he trousered it”

With “… pantsed…”

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Speaking of clothes…

UK: Jumper  
US: Sweater  
Result: Slight advantage to the US since is sounds marginally what we’re talking about.

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> UK:Tap  
> UK: hen night   
> US: bachelorette party  
> Win: Neither - the UK one is horribly sexist, the US one has that horrible made-up pseudofrench word.

I’m not sure the UK one is sexist; ‘hen’ is a pretty common friendly slang word in Scotland and some Northern areas for a woman, which seems to be especially commonly used by other women. Look a bit lost or upset and female, and ‘You alright hen?’ is something people, especially other women, will ask. Speaking as an English woman, I’ve encountered it far more as a neutral-positive term than the old ‘gossipy woman’ definition.  
UK: Car boot  
US: Car trunk

Win: UK; a car trunk sale just sounds weird, plus it adds a layer of unnecessary confusion to Nellie the Elephant.

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Hen is perfectly fine in Scotland.

Boot was already mentioned in post number 2.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-british-english-vs-us-english-playoff/821123/31 "2018-09-11T12:03:20Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Brit: Lift  
> US: Elevator
> 
> Result: Brit win. I mean, c’mon, it’s only one syllable and impossible to misspell. No contest.

Plus then you can have the elevator company “Schindler’s Lifts”.

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UK: Maths  
US: Math

Win: US, we don’t study the subjects of “Histories” or “Englishes”, so why would we study “Maths”? (Mathematics? Pshhh, fight me!)

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> …
> 
> Brit: Lift  
> US: Elevator.

Is there an equivalent shortcut for escalator?

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> [@Sangahyando](#):
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> Brit here, coming out in defence of our usage (perhaps it’s just what I’m accustomed to): “macaroni cheese” makes perfect sense – a compressed version of “macaroni made more exciting by being cooked with cheese”. “Macaroni and cheese” strikes me as unnecessarily wordy and clumsy; with a bit of a suggestion of a load of cooked plain macaroni, with a hunk of cheese beside it on the plate. And the often-used American equivalent “mac-and-cheese” is to me, an abomination. My first encounter with that one, had me wondering “what in heaven’s name is this? The latest horror from McDonalds?”

For me, “cheese macaroni” would make sense if one wanted to dispense with the conjunction. Then it would be analogous to cheese pizza or cheese sandwich or whatever. But we would never say pizza cheese or sandwich cheese, so macaroni cheese just sounds odd.

But where do we all stand on the Canadian Kraft Dinner? 😃

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Some more:

Brit: rubbish  
US: garbage

Result: US win  
Reason: This one is difficult. Rubbish is a nicer word, but I think it sounds far too neat and tidy for what it signifies. Garbage sounds exactly like what it is. Especially effective when said in a broad New York accent.

Brit: dummy  
US: pacifier

Result: US win.  
Reason: Pacifier expresses the (perhaps naive) hope of the sleep-deprived parents that something (for-the-love-of-God-please-something) will actually soothe the baby. Dummy sounds vaguely insulting.

Brit: loo (or toilet)  
US: bathroom

Result: Brit win  
Reason: Without getting into all the class implications of these words in the UK, I think loo is a brilliant word and toilet certainly wins for directness.

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Brit: Go to hospital.  
US: Go to the hospital.

You don’t say “Go to store.” “Go to park.” Do ya’? US for the win.

Note that things like “Go to school.” and “Go to work.” refer to a place you do the corresponding activity at. No one goes “to hospital” to do some “hospital(ing)”.

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> [@chaika](#):
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> Brit: dummy  
> US: pacifier
> 
> Result: US win.  
> Reason: Pacifier expresses the (perhaps naive) hope of the sleep-deprived parents that something (for-the-love-of-God-please-something) will actually soothe the baby. Dummy sounds vaguely insulting.

When I was a wee lad a dummy was often given the full name of dummy-tit, which is nicely descriptive I think.

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> [@ftg](#):
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> Brit: Go to hospital.  
> US: Go to the hospital.
> 
> You don’t say “Go to store.” “Go to park.” Do ya’? US for the win.
> 
> Note that things like “Go to school.” and “Go to work.” refer to a place you do the corresponding activity at. No one goes “to hospital” to do some “hospital(ing)”.

They[used to](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Hospitaller)…

And do you university at uni? Or college at college?

And only theachers go to school _to school_. Pupils got to _be_ schooled.

> [@Filbert](#):
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> I’m not sure the UK one is sexist; ‘hen’ is a pretty common friendly slang word in Scotland and some Northern areas for a woman

But “Hen party/night” isn’t just used Oop Norf and beyond…

> [@](#):
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> Speaking as an English woman, I’ve encountered it far more as a neutral-positive term than the old ‘gossipy woman’ definition.

It’s sexist when you compare it to the male equivalent - women are hens, men are stags. The women I know took to calling them vixen parties, instead. That’s women in the UK, mind you.

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Mr.Dibble, I grew up in the US (Northeast), and say “overalls.” I’ve barely heard of “coveralls,” and I’ve lived all over the US, but I haven’t been in many situations where the word would be used, since moving out of the northeast.

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Brit: Fag  
US: Smoke

Uhhhh…

ETA: I can imagine the response if someone from the UK walked up to a stranger in the US and said “Can I bum a fag?”

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