# The "Great Deception"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-deception/613511>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 21, 2012, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-deception/613511 "2012-02-21T08:08:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-deception/613511/21 "2014-01-10T20:21:57Z")

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> [@axolotyl](#):
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> \*\* The deceivers themselves are the most deceived of all.\*\*

Indeed, the creationists that deceive many with their anti evolution propaganda show how deceptive they are to themselves when they try to apply their “wisdom” to the entire society.

[http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA008.html](http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA008.html)

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> [Creationist] Claim CA008: Evolutionary theory promotes the concepts of promiscuity and lust, pointing out that the quest to produce many offspring is a main goal of organisms under Darwinism.
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> Source:  
> Morris, Henry M. 2000. Evil-ution. Back to Genesis 140 (Aug)
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> …
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> Response:
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> ```
> Description does not imply promotion. Mistaking "is" for "ought" is the naturalistic fallacy. The theory of evolution no more promotes promiscuity and lust than germ theory promotes getting infectious diseases.
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> Solving a problem works best if you first understand the source of the problem. Creationists, by denying sources of behavior, are less likely to deal with behavioral problems effectively. 
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-deception/613511/22 "2014-01-10T21:43:38Z")

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> [@axolotyl](#):
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> ```
> It is written . . .
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> ```

Lotsa things is written. It don’t mean they ain’t bullshit.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-deception/613511/23 "2014-01-11T09:52:09Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I had exactly the same reaction regarding my own comment in this thread.
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> On reflection, though, it was quite witty. So I forgive myself.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Don’t you love it when you’re reading a thread, and you come across a comment, and think “woah, dude that’s a weird thing to say”, and then you realize that you made the comment yourself 18 months ago?

I have absolutely no memory of this thread or posting in it, so it was weird to realize it was a zombie thread only after reading my own post.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-deception/613511/24 "2014-01-11T14:50:01Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> No, no, it’s “the truth shall make you fret”. Except in France, where the Truth shall make you Brie.

I thought it was: the truth shall make you a flea.

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