# The Great Dollar Bill debate **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 21, 2004, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131 "2004-07-21T03:41:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/81 "2004-07-22T12:58:18Z")
> [@SmackFu](#): > > [Savings bonds images](http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/mar/marartbonds.htm), to give you an idea who gets on stuff when no one is paying attention. Thanks for the link. Fascinating. Though until I Googled, I have to confess that I didn’t know who Hector Garcia or Spark Matsunaga were. They seem to be odd choices to me. I’d like to chime in to say that I depise carrying coins. I’d hate to see the $1 bill replaced with a $1 coin. I also have no interest in a $2 valued currency because it seems unncecessary (IIRC, one also has to consider that most cash register tills don’t have enough bins to hold a $2 coin or bill.) And, I am all in favor of eliminating the penny. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/82 "2004-07-22T12:59:53Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > (I didn’t know till this past month that SLC has ghosted USG’s autobiography). [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=264008) recent GQ thread says no. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/83 "2004-07-23T21:18:13Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > I want a Great Seal Coin so I could make a cool Illuminati or American Israel medallion of it. Look on the back of the dollar bill. Admittedly, that’s not the same as a coin – but you could have the image engraved on or scanned to a metal disc – they can do that now, right? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/84 "2004-07-23T21:34:28Z")
[Dazed and Confused] Have you every really looked at a dollar bill, man? There’s some crazy shit going on on the back of a dollar bill, man. [/Dazed and Confused] ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/85 "2004-07-23T21:47:57Z")
**DtC** : > [@](#): > > Surely you’ve heard the phrase “person of color” before. It just means someone who isn’t white. > > “Colored person” is offensive, btw. How about '_of_ colored person"? **Machetero** : > [@](#): > > National Association for the Advancement of “pejorative deleted”. Well, they could change it to the National Association for the Avancement of African-Americans, but…_naaaa!_😛 ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/86 "2004-07-23T23:06:25Z")
> [@](#): > > National Association for the Advancement of “pejorative deleted”. Few people would be comfortable using negro as a descriptive for black, yet The United Negro College Fund uses the term in their name. Why? Because back in the day it was started that was the term in common use. The antiquated terms are still there in the titles as a vestigial remenant of the times they were founded in. However, today most people associate those terms with the racism of the past, therefore they are frowned upon in most contexts. ---
**Author:** ![Balle\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@Balle\_M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balle_M)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/87 "2004-07-26T04:29:57Z")
> [@spectrum](#): > > Okay, dumb idea. But they’re still all more deserving the U.S. Grant! R-i-g-h-t…because Grant never did anything for, say, [Civil Rights](http://www.grantstomb.org/exhcivil.html). ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/88 "2004-07-26T05:13:46Z")
> [@Balle\_M](#): > > R-i-g-h-t…because Grant never did anything for, say, [Civil Rights](http://www.grantstomb.org/exhcivil.html). I guess Grant doesn’t get much credit for that because his achievements in the civil-rights field, like those of the Radical Republicans generally, did not last. When Reconstruction ended and the Confederate states were readmitted to the Union, their white elites were given free rein to roll back Reconstruction’s achievements, enact the Jim Crow laws, etc. And so it remained until the 1950s. ---
**Author:** ![PaulFitzroy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@PaulFitzroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PaulFitzroy)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/89 "2004-07-26T05:34:56Z")
Keep Washinton on the $1 Bill. [Brandon Iron](http://www.talkingblue.com/malestar/Brandon_Irons.htm) on the $5 Bill. [Joey Ray](http://www.searchextreme.com/actordetails/Joey_Ray/87592306841/) on the $10 Bill. [Kobe Tai](http://www.talkingblue.com/pornstar/kobe_tai_GS.htm) on the $15 Bill (Yes, make one up!) [Peter North](http://www.talkingblue.com/pornstar/peternorth_GS.htm) on the $20 Bill. [Herschel Savage](http://www.searchextreme.com/actordetails/Herschel_Savage/27020306841/) on the $50 Bill. And finally, [Ron Jeremy](http://www.searchextreme.com/actordetails/Ron_Jeremy/54899206841/) , The Hedgehog himself, on the $100. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/90 "2004-07-26T06:01:19Z")
> [@PaulFitzroy](#): > > Keep Washinton on the $1 Bill. > [Brandon Iron](http://www.talkingblue.com/malestar/Brandon_Irons.htm) on the $5 Bill. > [Joey Ray](http://www.searchextreme.com/actordetails/Joey_Ray/87592306841/) on the $10 Bill. > [Kobe Tai](http://www.talkingblue.com/pornstar/kobe_tai_GS.htm) on the $15 Bill (Yes, make one up!) > [Peter North](http://www.talkingblue.com/pornstar/peternorth_GS.htm) on the $20 Bill. > [Herschel Savage](http://www.searchextreme.com/actordetails/Herschel_Savage/27020306841/) on the $50 Bill. > And finally, [Ron Jeremy](http://www.searchextreme.com/actordetails/Ron_Jeremy/54899206841/) , The Hedgehog himself, on the $100. It is customary for the central cartouche on a bill to display a portrait of the person so honored – a portrait showing only the face, neck and shoulders. Do you have a different style of portraiture in mind? ---
**Author:** ![PaulFitzroy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@PaulFitzroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PaulFitzroy)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/91 "2004-07-26T06:24:34Z")
No, not unless other parts of the bill were appropriated for the purpose. Maybe a headshot for the front and an artist’s rendition of a still image from one of any of those performer’s fine films on the back. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/92 "2004-07-26T10:50:34Z")
I’m not American, so maybe I should butt out, but I think ‘prominent’ figures are a better choice than just politicians/leaders (although there’s no logical reason why a political leader can’t also merit the position also) - other countries do this - in the UK we have Darwin on the £10 note (it used to be Dickens). I’d think Edison, Einstein and Armstrong would be good candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/93 "2004-07-26T13:46:42Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > I’d think Edison, Einstein and Armstrong would be good candidates. Armstrong: Lance or Neil? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Balle\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@Balle\_M](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balle_M)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/94 "2004-07-26T17:35:34Z")
> [@Algernon](#): > > Armstrong: Lance or Neil? 😃 Louis! (and I mean that seriously) ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/95 "2004-07-26T18:59:23Z")
> [@PaulFitzroy](#): > > Keep Washinton on the $1 Bill. > [Brandon Iron](http://www.talkingblue.com/malestar/Brandon_Irons.htm) on the $5 Bill. > [Joey Ray](http://www.searchextreme.com/actordetails/Joey_Ray/87592306841/) on the $10 Bill. > [Kobe Tai](http://www.talkingblue.com/pornstar/kobe_tai_GS.htm) on the $15 Bill (Yes, make one up!) > [Peter North](http://www.talkingblue.com/pornstar/peternorth_GS.htm) on the $20 Bill. > [Herschel Savage](http://www.searchextreme.com/actordetails/Herschel_Savage/27020306841/) on the $50 Bill. > And finally, [Ron Jeremy](http://www.searchextreme.com/actordetails/Ron_Jeremy/54899206841/) , The Hedgehog himself, on the $100. Do you know something about the personal life of George Washington that we don’t? Personal diaries of Martha Washington, maybe? 'cuz otherwise he’s the odd duck out on that list… (Insert your own “Father of our country” joke here) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/96 "2004-07-26T23:47:40Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > Do you know something about the personal life of George Washington that we don’t? Personal diaries of Martha Washington, maybe? 'cuz otherwise he’s the odd duck out on that list… > > (Insert your own “Father of our country” joke here) Are you kidding? Just look at the size of his Monument! ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/97 "2004-07-27T00:58:28Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > [hijack] > > From a purely analytical and objective standpoint, isn’t it inconsistent to say “colored person” is offensive but “person of color” is not? > > [/hijack] One offends lots of people, the other doesn’t. Simple empirical truth here - observe the situation. What kind of analytical thought involves ignoring observations about the world around you? For the love of God, why can’t people just give up the silly wars about what to call others and just go with whatever most of 'em like best? ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131/98 "2004-07-27T01:14:54Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > 5.00 - John Marshall Yes! Been reading this thread just waiting for someone to bring the guy up. Elsewise I was gonna have to do it myself. Him, Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton - who else was as instrumental in founding the country as these dudes? Meanwhile, I nominate John Coltrane for the twenty. Gotta get that Jackson dude off of there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-dollar-bill-debate/256131.md?page=4)