# The Great Droid Amnesia & Other Questions SITH Must Answer

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 18, 2005, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369 "2005-05-18T06:59:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/21 "2005-05-18T15:24:28Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> But [Yoda] looked pretty angry, hateful, and aggressive when he fought Dooku.

I sure didn’t think so. He looked very calm and focused to me.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/22 "2005-05-18T15:42:42Z")

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1. How does Obi-Wan Kenobi go from 30-something Ewan McGregor to near-70 Alec Guinness in about 20 years?

2. When does Darth Vader grow about a foot taller?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/23 "2005-05-18T15:50:06Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> 1. How does Obi-Wan Kenobi go from 30-something Ewan McGregor to near-70 Alec Guinness in about 20 years?

Remember to moisturize in the desert heat he did not.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/24 "2005-05-18T15:54:46Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> 1. When does Darth Vader grow about a foot taller?

Lifts in those black boots. Dominate, you must, if you want to be a Dark Lord. Otherwise you look like Dark Helmet. 😃

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**Author:** ![Jenny\_Haniver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Jenny\_Haniver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenny_Haniver)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/25 "2005-05-18T16:06:07Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Remember to moisturize in the desert heat he did not.

Ruined my keyboard you have!

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/26 "2005-05-18T16:09:05Z")

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C-3PO has a pretty poor memeory. I was just watching EP IV and the gang almost gets killed in the garbage compacter because C-3PO “forgets” he has a communicator due to all the confusion. What droid forgets things?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/27 "2005-05-18T16:14:44Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> I wish I’d gotten a chance to see Vol.2 of the Clone Wars shorts. Sigh.

[That’s just crazytalk.](http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/promos/200503_starwars/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/28 "2005-05-18T16:18:18Z")

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_snerk_ Making me laugh, you are!

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/29 "2005-05-18T16:27:45Z")

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Various answers, some factual, some guesses.

C-3PO certainly had a memory wipe between Episodes III and IV, as did R2, most likely. I think R2 was programmed by Leia to say anything to get to Ben.

Leia claims to remember her mother, sure. It’s possible Padme went to Alderaan with Leia, but in the interests of continuity, I’m going to ret-con it by factoring in Leia’s powers in the Force–it was possible to have contact with her mother without ever actually seeing her–in fact, without even having been born. Why not Luke, you ask? I don’t have an answer for that. 🙂

In the novelization of RotJ, Ben does indeed claim that Owen was his own brother. (I looked up this exact passage earlier this week for another thread.) According to Ben, Anakin _never knew Padme was pregnant_. If that’s true, it answers every question as to why Vader didn’t just go look for his kids. He didn’t even know they existed until somebody told him the kid who blew up the Death Star was named Skywalker. Leia came as a surprise to him about four years later.

I had more, but they expect me to work or something. :mad:

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**Author:** ![wayward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a87d85/32.png) [@wayward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wayward)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/30 "2005-05-18T17:06:23Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> Here’s another one…
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> Yodas the little non-violent green guy who preaches about not giving into anger, hate, aggression “Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”  
> “Anger, fear, aggression, the dark side of the force they are.”
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> But he looked pretty angry, hateful, and aggressive when he fought Dooku.

Maybe it’s a philosophy he only came to live by after meditating in a swamp for twenty years…

And

> [@Stephe96](#):
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> 1. How does Obi-Wan Kenobi go from 30-something Ewan McGregor to near-70 Alec Guinness in about 20 years?
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> 2. When does Darth Vader grow about a foot taller?

1. I think they’ve done a pretty good job of aging Ewan over the course of the trilogy. From the shots I’ve seen of _Sith_, he looks like he easily be in his late 40s/early 50s.

2. “He is more machine than man.” Robot legs. Nuff said.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/31 "2005-05-18T17:10:31Z")

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Does Padme like to be tied up when she has sex?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/32 "2005-05-18T17:13:44Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> Does Padme like to be tied up when she has sex?

No, but she enjoys being immobilized with styling gel.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/33 "2005-05-18T17:17:04Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> No, but she enjoys being immobilized with styling gel.

Ummm… That isn’t styling gel.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/34 "2005-05-18T17:17:48Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I’m trying to think of all the questions that REVENGE OF THE SITH must answer in order to provide good continuity between episodes 3 and 4. The main one that’s plagued me has been the droid factor, which will hopefully be at least partly explained:
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> 1- Why C3PO has no memory of ever having been on Tattooine (or, for that matter, having actually lived on the Lars moisture farm before)

Midichorians

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> 2- More puzzling (because droid’s memories can be erased)- why Owen Lars has no memory of C3PO when he buys him from the Jawa (or of R2 for that matter, which may not be as surprising since supposedly R2s were mass produced and he had never actually lived with R2)

Midichlorians

[QUOTE=Sampiro]  
3- Why Obi Wan Kenobi denies ever having had an R2 unit in Episode IV (Jedi Alzheimers? “Oh yes… now that I recall we did have a few major campaigns together in the first two movies…”)

[QUOTE]

Midichlorians (they’re the answer to _everything_, but _NOT_ LIFE the Universe and Everything)

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Other questions:
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> Why on Earth in a galaxy of millions of populated systems Kenobi hides Luke in Annakin’s birthplace, and why he goes into hiding by changing his name from Obi Wan Kenobi to Ben Kenobi-

Midichlorians (i’m beginning to see a pattern here…)

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Why Leia can remember her mother but Luke cannot-

it’s Jar-Jar’s fault, also…Midichlorians

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Feel free to comment on these or post your own continuity questions. Presumably at least some of these will be answered (as well as how C3PO comes to be brass plated)

do you really need to ask , mid…ahhh forget it

😉

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/35 "2005-05-18T18:01:19Z")

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Speaking of Jar Jar, does he get the gory and hideously painful death that he so richly deserves? After all it is all his fault - he put himself into a position where he allowed Palpatine to manipulate him.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/36 "2005-05-18T18:14:26Z")

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> [@wayward](#):
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> 1. “He is more machine than man.” Robot legs. Nuff said.

“Look, Grommit - they’re _TechnoTrousers_ - from NASA!” 🙂

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/37 "2005-05-18T18:16:14Z")

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Maybe “Skywalker” was as common as “Smith” a long time ago…

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/38 "2005-05-18T18:29:49Z")

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> [@watsonwil](#):
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> Maybe “Skywalker” was as common as “Smith” a long time ago…

Yeah, I wonder if Skywalker is the surname for anyone who arrived on a Space transport to set up a new life, a “sky walker” of no importance, a space bum.

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**Author:** ![MackoUr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MackoUr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MackoUr)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/39 "2005-05-18T18:42:42Z")

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> [@Sean Factotum](#):
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> Maybe because Anakin knew that Padme was preggers, but didn’t know they were going to be twins.

I peaked at the novelization of Sith last night, so I’ll supply an actual spoiler:

Anakin knows Padme is pregnant, doesn’t know about twins (no one does, so much for their prenatal care), and when she dies, the good guys set it up to look like the baby died too.

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**Author:** ![Tarrsk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@Tarrsk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarrsk)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-droid-amnesia-other-questions-sith-must-answer/304369/40 "2005-05-18T18:43:53Z")

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That sort of name seems to be more a Tatooine thing than anything else (Luke “Skywalker,” Biggs “Darklighter,” etc).

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