# The Great Flag Debate of Utah (now moved on to additional states, currently IL) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 4, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694 "2023-03-04T01:08:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/41 "2023-03-05T03:12:08Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > medium blue bottom half (Great Salt Lake) But then they have to change it again in [a few years](https://www.dogonews.com/2023/2/13/utahs-great-salt-lake-could-dry-up-in-five-years). ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/42 "2023-03-05T03:12:59Z")
Just make the blue stripe a bit thinner each year. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/43 "2023-03-05T03:27:27Z")
OK, here is my flag design after the legislators get done with it. [![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/zBrFesA.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/zBrFesA) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/44 "2023-03-05T03:39:03Z")
In fact, I have discovered that one of the finalists was similar to what I was suggesting. I like this better than their choice. I might make the shade of orange a tad darker and redder, closer to the images of Navajo sandstone above. [![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/d0mad7Y.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/d0mad7Y) ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/45 "2023-03-05T04:27:51Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > In fact, I have discovered that one of the finalists was similar to what I was suggesting. I quite like that one indeed, too. I suppose in the final choice someone as mentioned above went for the beehive=honeycomb=hexagon thing and that someone else figured that plain red would be easier to deal with. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/46 "2023-03-05T05:01:20Z")
> [@abcdefghij](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > Given that it’s Utah, more likely hot cocoa mugs and T-shirts… > > [“And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly” (Doctrine and Covenants 89:9)](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/89?lang=eng&id=9#p9) Then, what, soup maybe? ---
**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/47 "2023-03-05T05:05:56Z")
Gazpacho ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/48 "2023-03-05T05:11:54Z")
But you don’t NEED a mug for gazpacho! A mug is for hot liquid so you don’t burn your fingers! Maybe one of those mug-cakes you make in the microwave… ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Finn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Mark\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/49 "2023-03-05T05:24:09Z")
Canada’s provincial flags are full of complex coats of arms and Union Jacks. Keep them simple like Quebec or Newfoundland that any child could draw. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/50 "2023-03-05T05:56:12Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > A mug is for hot liquid That’s why we says “it’s muggy” when it’s hot and humid. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/51 "2023-03-05T07:08:32Z")
Maryland. A very difficult flag to draw. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/52 "2023-03-05T07:52:51Z")
Yeah, but which province has the [absolute best license plate](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/bd/d1/ae/bdd1aee9d1f0e9e81393cf7653bda249.jpg)? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/53 "2023-03-05T11:43:18Z")
The new flag is an improvement on Utah’s current boring banner, but I liked a simpler version that was among the proposed replacements: [https://flag.utah.gov/final-flag-designs/](https://flag.utah.gov/final-flag-designs/) ETA, since the link isn’t displaying the image, it’s the same as the new one, except the stylized mountains and Great Salt Lake behind the beehive are replaced by four triangles, the top one blue, the bottom red, and the two sides white, whose points converge at the golden beehive. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/54 "2023-03-05T14:08:22Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I’m also a big fan of Ohio’s, and would be even if I didn’t live here. It is the only one that is burgee-shaped. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/55 "2023-03-05T15:51:49Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Yeah, but which province has the [absolute best license plate](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/bd/d1/ae/bdd1aee9d1f0e9e81393cf7653bda249.jpg)? Excellent! NWT has that too. Or, had. A funny thing is that one cannot drive to Nunavut. [![](https://i.imgur.com/i9yNSM8.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/i9yNSM8.jpeg) [![](https://i.imgur.com/PT9UhCZ.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/PT9UhCZ.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/56 "2023-03-06T05:21:55Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > > I’m also a big fan of Ohio’s, and would be even if I didn’t live here. > > It is the only one that is burgee-shaped. Just one of its several charms. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/57 "2023-03-06T06:22:49Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > > I’m also a big fan of Ohio’s, and would be even if I didn’t live here. > > It is the only one that is burgee-shaped. Technically, it’s a swallowtail pennant. Some time back, I got to wondering how many non-rectangular flags were in use among the countries and their 1st level subdivisions. Nepal is the only country with one, it being a combination of two triangles with different dimensions. Ohio was the only non-rect state/province flag I could find, but it’s possible I could have missed one. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/58 "2023-03-06T09:11:45Z")
Oh! Someone just has to do one of those “Quran Project” videos asking random folks on the street in the US about the different flags and seeing how many freak out about Islam being in the country. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/59 "2023-03-06T11:07:12Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > . Some time back, I got to wondering how many non-rectangular flags were in use among the countries and their 1st level subdivisions. Nepal is the only country with one, it being a combination of two triangles with different dimensions. You missed one - the Swiss flag is square, not rectangular. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-flag-debate-of-utah-now-moved-on-to-additional-states-currently-il/980694/60 "2023-03-06T11:23:08Z")
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