# The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other) (Part 1)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [October 23, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499 "2011-10-23T02:17:01Z")
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### Author: ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6103 "2024-05-28T21:45:56Z")

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If it had been a U.S. carrier I’d have put even money that it was the captain.

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### Author: ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6104 "2024-05-30T13:19:25Z")

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For the second time in six weeks, a near miss at Reagan National airport

[FAA investigates after planes almost collide on runway at Reagan National Airport (wjla.com)](https://wjla.com/news/local/two-planes-almost-collide-dca-ronald-reagan-washington-national-airport-washington-dc-american-airlines-king-air-faa-investigation-intersecting-runway-federal-aviation-administration-flight-safety)

Scary stuff

Edit to use a link that has the ATC audio

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### Author: ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6105 "2024-05-31T15:32:10Z")

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Ah but were any of the pilots involved naked? Inquiring minds want to know.

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### Author: ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6106 "2024-06-01T02:22:24Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> [Australian police arrest a man accused of running naked through an airliner | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/naked-passenger-australia-virgin-melbourne-perth-76c7639db617ccf561617f8c17a42de8?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share)

> [@Magiver](#):
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> Ah but were any of the pilots involved naked? Inquiring minds want to know.

When I saw the headline, I just assumed it was a member of the flight crew.

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### Author: ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6107 "2024-06-01T02:23:36Z")

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It does sound like somebody got caught with their pants down on this.

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6108 "2024-06-01T02:26:46Z")

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Has there been a streak of these?

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### Author: ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6109 "2024-06-01T18:40:19Z")

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Well played.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6110 "2024-06-02T02:30:22Z")

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I wonder if he barely made his connecting flight.

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### Author: ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6111 "2024-06-02T13:53:24Z")

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Ha! That’s a good one, too.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
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How do we know it was his birthday? Because he was wearing his suit.

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### Author: ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6113 "2024-06-02T21:40:24Z")

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Hmmm…not quite so funny. But I applaud the effort.

Let’s end this sidebar with a joke:

A pilot walks into a his Aviation Mental Examiner’s office for the usual exam, but he (the pilot) is wearing nothing but cellophane tape wrapped around his body.

The AME says: “I can clearly see you’re nuts!”

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6114 "2024-06-02T23:24:16Z")

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**“Four Engines for Short Haul” – The Inside Story How BAe 146 Started the Regional Jet Revolution**

> One of the uphill battles BAe faced was operating four engines seemed ludicrous and expensive, and airlines weren’t shy to share that fact. BAe always came armed with cost and operating statistics to demonstrate the aircraft was just as inexpensive to operate as a twin-engine aircraft, and that the economics were better than even turboprop aircraft.

> **[“Four Engines for Short Haul” – The Inside Story How BAe 146 Started the...](https://avgeekery.com/four-engines-for-short-haul-the-inside-story-how-bae-146-started-the-regional-jet-revolution/)**
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> The Fascinating Story of How the Last British Airliner Clawed Its Way to Success Avgeekery contributor Brian Wiklem has released a riveting new book that tells the entire story about…

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### Author: ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6115 "2024-06-03T01:05:37Z")

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I remember flying the 146 in and out of (I think) Washington National a few times when I was working for the US Army. I always thought it was an under-rated plane. Now my favorite short-haul is the EMB 190.

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### Author: ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6116 "2024-06-03T06:01:13Z")

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I’m pretty sure I mentioned this before, but my dad worked for a regional airline that bought some BAe 146s. Every few weeks he’d go to England, pick up a brand new plane, and fly it back to the U.S.

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### Author: ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2024, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6117 "2024-06-04T05:56:30Z")

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Stunt pilot dies in Portugal air show:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/b0FNnwmdRSM/maxresdefault.jpg "Shocking Air Show Midair Tragedy Unfolds in Portugal") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0FNnwmdRSM)

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6118 "2024-06-04T22:04:50Z")

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One day I flew up to WJF to get a $100 Pepsi (and I don’t even _prefer_ Pepsi!). A server at Foxy’s Landing (the airport diner) snapped a photo of me. That was in the late-'90s, or maybe 2000 or 2001. Anyway, I thought I’d look to see where that helicopter is now. And I found it.

> **[Accident Schweizer 269C-1 N61413,](https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/294455)**
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> The helicopter encountered ground resonance after landing and sustained substantial damage in the vibratory event. The pilot-undergoing-instruction (PUI) was taking refresher training in...

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### Author: ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6119 "2024-06-04T23:16:44Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Anyway, I thought I’d look to see where that helicopter is now. And I found it.

At least four airplanes I’ve flown were later destroyed in accidents, two of which involved friends of mine. The most recent was a jet I’d flown two weeks before, but luckily the crew (also friends) survived.

It always reminds me that we play this game for keeps.

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6120 "2024-06-05T02:13:43Z")

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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> At least four airplanes I’ve flown were later destroyed in accidents

Two of the R22s I’d flown were destroyed in crashes. Another one may or may not have been; I’ve heard conflicting stories. Now I’ve read the Schweizer was lost. Three or four crashes, no injuries aside from abrasions and bruises.

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### Author: ![ThisOneGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@ThisOneGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisOneGuy)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6121 "2024-06-05T02:33:20Z")

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Had a similar experience looking up the plane I soloed in. Was later involved in a VFR into IMC incident, but unusually both on board survived. Pilot had to walk back to the airport through a frozen swamp with two broken ankles tho.

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### Author: ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2024, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/6122 "2024-06-05T04:24:31Z")

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I’ve flown (an introductory lesson) one helicopter, an R44. Couple weeks later it looked like this…

> **[Passengers escape fiery helicopter crash in Santa Barbara County](https://abc7.com/santa-barbara-helicopter-crash-la-cumbre-country-club/1958966/)**
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> Three people onboard a tour helicopter that crashed at a golf course in the Santa Barbara area on Friday got out of the wreck alive, according to Santa Barbara County fire officials.

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