# The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other) (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 23, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499 "2011-10-23T02:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 402
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8023 "2025-06-28T20:41:01Z")
I hope she wears safer clothing and more safety equipment while actually doing woodworking and glue-up. A 1920s era airplane is not going to be a joy to fly; more like a friggin’ handful. I hope she’s skillful, conservative, or preferably both. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8024 "2025-06-28T22:34:45Z")
She has a 1946 Cessna 140, so not that much newer. Brian ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8025 "2025-06-28T23:53:50Z")
There were enormous technological advances from the 1920s to 1946 in aviation. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8026 "2025-06-29T00:03:11Z")
Yes I should have done the math, though the 1946 140 still had fabric wings. I don’t know enough about either airplane (closest I’ve flown is a 1972 150) to make an informed determination so I am dropping out. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8027 "2025-06-29T01:06:17Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I hope she wears safer clothing and more safety equipment while actually doing woodworking and glue-up. I expect she’s glamming it up as a draw for viewers and money. She’s definitely not presenting it without color commentary like Norm Abram. as for a 1920 plane I would expect her to use one of a plethora of modern aircraft engines specifically designed for light planes. It probably wouldn’t fit the historic image but a radial engine would be really cool. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8028 "2025-06-29T01:34:32Z")
I would add that looking at her makes me wish I was a rich football coach. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8029 "2025-07-02T01:54:21Z")
[General Aviation News 30 June 2025](https://generalaviationnews.com/2025/06/30/iowa-pilot-solos-13-different-planes-on-his-16th-birthday/) # Iowa pilot solos 13 different planes on his 16th birthday - Sullivan Vande Voort celebrated his 16th birthday May 26, 2025, by completing solo flights in 13 different airplane types. - Sullivan’s family owns Classic Aviation, an aviation services company and flight school at Pella Municipal Airport ([KPEA](https://iflightplanner.com/Airports/KPEA)) and Oskaloosa Municipal Airport ([KOOA](https://iflightplanner.com/Airports/KOOA)) in Iowa. - “A pilot must be 16 years old to fly an airplane solo and Sullivan had set a goal to fly more than 10 airplanes on his 16th birthday,” says Shane Vande Voort, Sullivan’s father. “Due to the kindness of the aviation community and his hard work, he was able to solo 13.” I thought we were do for a light hearted story. Kudos to the young man. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8030 "2025-07-02T10:34:48Z")
Yes. About time for good news. And quite an assortment. From radial engine tailwheel biplane to a very late model high performance type. 9 taildraggers and 4 tricycles. Sounds like a person who’ll really be a pilot’s pilot, not some kid starring in publicity stunts for clicks. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8031 "2025-07-02T14:49:27Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > And quite an assortment. From radial engine tailwheel biplane to a very late model high performance type. 9 taildraggers and 4 tricycles. That’s a huge range of skills. Just the ground differences between taildraggers and tricycle gear has tripped up many a pilot. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8032 "2025-07-02T20:06:20Z")
Any idea why you would name a Chinook “Hairy”? Sometimes late at night I hear a large helicopter fly over, and it is usually a Chinook named HAIRY02. Which seems like a much better name for a Harrier Jumpjet. [![](https://i.imgur.com/5Km36qB.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/5Km36qB.jpeg) Seems like “Scaly” would be less fishy by being more fishy. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8033 "2025-07-02T20:20:51Z")
The callsign used isn’t for the specific aircraft, but mission or unit specific. Sometime there’s consistency in that a unit will use a call sign regularly, and sometimes it just seems like it was something that someone thought was variously funny or bad-ass sounding on a given day. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8034 "2025-07-02T21:02:05Z")
The Greenville airport mentioned contains an SC Army National Guard depot maintenance facility for their helicopters. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8035 "2025-07-02T22:31:19Z")
“Small plane” went down near/at Cross Keys airport in S NJ. Listening to the scanner & the news, it’s a small plane but they’re calling it a MCI - Mass Casualty Incident (w/ at least a dozen ambulances & a couple of medical helos) & a Haz-Mat; I also heard the officer state to “bring the e-draulics & all batteries forward” - in layman’s terms, the battery Jaws of Life. There is a skydive facility there; which would fit with MCI designation. Not sure why it’s also a haz-mat but I’ve heard them mandating people report to decon. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8036 "2025-07-02T22:35:39Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Seems like “Scaly” would be less fishy by being more fishy. I looked for a picture of Race Bannon from _The New Adventures of Jonny Quest_ saying ‘Fur on a catfish!’, but I couldn’t find one. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8037 "2025-07-03T02:51:20Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > Not sure why it’s also a haz-mat… Is it possible to crash in New Jersey _without_ releasing hazardous materials? ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8038 "2025-07-03T03:01:40Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > “Small plane” went down near/at Cross Keys airport in S NJ. > The pilot reported engine trouble as the Cessna 208B ascended before crashing into the woods at Cross Keys Airport, southeast of Philadelphia, around 5:30 p.m. local time… > > Passengers sustained injuries varying from minor to critical, Halter said. **Many passengers who were covered in jet fuel were decontaminated before being taken to the hospital** , he said. > > Fourteen people from the plane were taken to local hospitals, including three who were taken by helicopter in critical condition, according to Halter. > **[Skydiving plane with 15 people onboard goes off runway at New Jersey airport...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/02/us/skydiving-plane-crash-new-jersey)** > > A skydiving plane with 15 people onboard went off the end of the runway at a New Jersey airport, southeast of Philadelphia, Wednesday evening, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8039 "2025-07-03T11:23:39Z")
It’s a Cessna 208B Grand Caravan. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8040 "2025-07-03T11:40:29Z")
,which led me to this. I know we discussed this incident three years ago, but this take on it is a good read – worth revisiting, perhaps. > **['Not today': The twin miracles of Palm Beach - The Sunday Long Read](https://sundaylongread.com/2024/10/17/palm-beach-airport-heart-surgeon/)** > > The pilot went unconscious at 10,000 feet. Neither of the passengers had ever flown a plane. For them to survive, it would take a miracle. Or two. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8041 "2025-07-03T14:21:44Z")
This flap was crap. > **[Broken piece of Delta plane from Atlanta lands in North Carolina driveway](https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2025/07/02/broken-piece-delta-plane-atlanta-lands-north-carolina-driveway/)** > > The FAA said the fragment likely came from a Boeing 737 that flew from Atlanta to Raleigh. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/8042 "2025-07-03T16:37:31Z")
How much flop could a flappy flap flop if a flappy flap could flop flop? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499.md?page=401) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499.md?page=403)