# The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other) (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 23, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499 "2011-10-23T02:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 478
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9543 "2026-03-27T02:49:02Z")
Another military helicopter crosses the approach path of a commercial plane. [LA Times March 26, 2026 3:33 PM PT](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-03-26/near-miss-john-wayne-airport-orange-county-military-helicopter-united-jet) - A Black Hawk helicopter passed directly in front of a United Airlines passenger jet Tuesday as the plane was landing at John Wayne Airport, federal officials said. - The close call occurred around 8:40 p.m. as a United Airlines Boeing 737, flying out of San Francisco, was approaching the Orange County airport and a Sikorsky helicopter “crossed in front of United’s flight path,” a Federal Aviation Administration spokesperson said in an email. - In air traffic control audio reviewed by The Times, the pilot of the flight stated that they had received a resolution advisory about the helicopter — an automated alert to climb or descend to avoid a collision. There is no possible military training mission that involves crossing an approach pattern. None. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9544 "2026-03-27T14:01:36Z")
3 dead & 2 injured in [HI helo crash](https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/03/27/crews-respond-helicopter-crash-kauai/) ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9545 "2026-03-28T05:31:29Z")
This was a sightseeing tour: > **[3 killed in tour company helicopter crash off the coast of the Hawaiian...](https://apnews.com/article/hawaii-kauai-helicopter-crash-fd89fbd743330bd2c787e52541a82036)** > > A sightseeing company's helicopter has crashed near a remote beach off the coast of the Hawaiian island of Kauai, killing three people and injuring two others. Note: > The area’s geography of tall seaside cliffs and sharp mountain ridges can contribute to turbulent air and quick weather changes that pose hazards for aviation. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9546 "2026-03-29T00:10:41Z")
Whatever happened to the Cessna 170A that was used in the beginning of _Them!_ (1954)? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9547 "2026-03-29T15:08:28Z")
Adios to an AWACS? Do these photos look accurate? > **[Images Purportedly Show E-3 Sentry Totally Destroyed From Iranian Strike](https://www.twz.com/air/images-purportedly-show-e-3-sentry-totally-destroyed-from-iranian-strike)** > > A loss of an E-3 would be a major blow for the dwindling fleet of increasingly rickety airframes and would point to other capability and defensive gaps. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9548 "2026-03-29T16:34:52Z")
All the pix in that cite have been deleted. Nothing to evaluate. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9549 "2026-03-29T17:19:21Z")
Here you can see the images along with a disclaimer - but they were legit. > **[Images Purportedly Show E-3 Sentry Totally Destroyed From Iranian Strike](https://www.twz.com/air/images-purportedly-show-e-3-sentry-totally-destroyed-from-iranian-strike)** > > A loss of an E-3 would be a major blow for the dwindling fleet of increasingly rickety airframes and would point to other capability and defensive gaps. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9550 "2026-03-29T18:53:53Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > All the pix in that cite have been deleted. Nothing to evaluate. I still see the photos. I believe you have said you have an active block on seeing Twitter content on your computer? ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9551 "2026-03-29T21:05:01Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > All the pix in that cite have been deleted. Nothing to evaluate > **[Photos show heavily damaged US radar jet at Saudi base](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyd07m7e1xo)** > > US Central Command has not yet publicly commented on the incident. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9552 "2026-03-30T01:36:25Z")
I do. What I see instead of the images is a gray space with black block printing in the center reading “SORRY, THIS POST IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE”. Which certainly doesn’t look like adblock or content filtering at my end and looks a lot more like the server sent a replacement image. But if you all say you see it, clearly the problem is at my end, no matter how it manifests to me. Sorry to mislead. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9553 "2026-03-30T01:43:42Z")
Thanks for the replacement cite. I’ll take BBC’s word for their verification, but that sure looks real to me. The fact the rotodome is sitting there fairly intact on the ground adjacent to the missing fuselage really looks like this was a direct hit with a munition to the fuselage near there, rather than some sort of shrapnel starts a fire scenario. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9554 "2026-03-30T02:48:32Z")
Looks like something a continuous rod weapon would do to one in flight. Definitely a score for Iran and likely helped with Russian intelligence. Now it’s lots of good parts for an aging fleet that’s on it’s way out the door. I think Ukraine is about due for an attack on similar Russian assets. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9555 "2026-03-30T10:19:37Z")
Sliding a bit off-topic … In various news reports over the years the Ukrainians have whacked a Mainstay or two. Politically it’s also a very weird situation where the trumply US is not a Ukrainian ally in the conventional sense. ~~Our~~ trump’s actions are often abetting Russia against Ukraine. I’m a bit mystified why anyone would think Ukraine ought to carry some water here for the USA. Back to Iran, but still partly out of scope for this thread: The E3 is definitely a high value high target and the thorough kill they got is high leverage. But you don’t prosecute a conflict by tit-for-tat plinking your enemy. You prosecute by destroying the stuff that’s most helpful to your goals to destroy. This isn’t (yet) total war on our side. Decent bet the Iranians recognize it is total war for them. They have no interest in going the way of Ba’athist Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9556 "2026-03-30T11:25:50Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I’m a bit mystified why anyone would think Ukraine ought to carry some water here for the USA. one could argue the case that never before the USA has achived that much with that little money (and overall risk) in terms of destroying an opponents weaponry … than funnelling their intelligence to the UKR just remember Russia once had a black-sea-fleet… I def. see some low-key-proxy-wargaming (now on both sides) going on. … but now back from swimming irons to flying irons … 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9557 "2026-03-30T13:46:57Z")
To change topics - The [Mid-America Flight Museum](https://midamericaflightmuseum.com/) has announced plans to host a DC-3 Gathering over the weekend of September 19, 2026, at its home base of [Glover Field (XS70)](https://skyvector.com/airport/XS70/Glover-Airport) in Mount Pleasant, Texas [Save the date](https://vintageaviationnews.com/warbirds-news/mid-america-flight-museum-to-host-dc-3-gathering-at-texas-grass-strip-in-september-2026.html) ← (link to full article) Damn, that’s [Adirondacks](https://adirondackballoonfest.org/) weekend for us. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9558 "2026-03-30T14:22:56Z")
Coming to an airshow (maybe) near you, one of only two airworthy [F100-F](https://vintageaviationnews.com/warbirds-news/collings-foundations-f-100f-super-sabre-returns-to-flight-at-ellington-field.html) after it’s first flight in almost a year ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9559 "2026-03-30T15:04:00Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > Coming to an airshow (maybe) near you, one of only two airworthy [F100-F](https://vintageaviationnews.com/warbirds-news/collings-foundations-f-100f-super-sabre-returns-to-flight-at-ellington-field.html) after it’s first flight in almost a year That is awesome - what a beast of an airplane. I have to go see it fly. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9560 "2026-03-30T15:06:27Z")
Does that mean the Wings of Freedom Tour is back in business? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9561 "2026-03-30T17:49:29Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > To change topics - > > The [Mid-America Flight Museum](https://midamericaflightmuseum.com/) has announced plans to host a DC-3 Gathering over the weekend of September 19, 2026, at its home base of [Glover Field (XS70)](https://skyvector.com/airport/XS70/Glover-Airport) in Mount Pleasant, Texas > > [Save the date](https://vintageaviationnews.com/warbirds-news/mid-america-flight-museum-to-host-dc-3-gathering-at-texas-grass-strip-in-september-2026.html) ← (link to full article) > > Damn, that’s [Adirondacks](https://adirondackballoonfest.org/) weekend for us. I saw a flyover of DC-3s at the World’s Fair in '86. They were old 40 years ago. Lego is bringing out a DC-3 model in a couple weeks, in Pan Am colors. I’ll be getting one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/9562 "2026-03-30T18:29:18Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I saw a flyover of DC-3s at the World’s Fair in '86. They were old 40 years ago. 2024 there was a formation flight down the Hudson & past the Statue of Liberty for those that hopscotched their way over to Europe for the 80th D-Day reenactment. Unfortunately I didn’t know about it but have seen pictures of it from the air from Placid Lassie in their hangar/day room. I have a friend who’s involved with them so we got a private tour last year; tres cool! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499.md?page=477) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499.md?page=479)