# The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other) (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 23, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499 "2011-10-23T02:17:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1221 "2018-07-31T02:57:14Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> Ultimately no flight tonight (thunderstorms over & around the field) but a long & very thorough **briefing** , including demonstrations of flight procedures, including the USSS. Festival is \< 5 miles from the center of a VIP TFR! :eek:

(missed a word)  
Interesting weekend in terms of we believe that was the first time balloon pilot & passengers had to go thru security screening. No TSA here, USSS & RPD were the screeners. Very through but much better attitude then _those_ screeners. They really were from the government & they were there to help.

Got five of six flights in for the weekend, including three of four during the TFR. Ultimately, winds never took us directly towards Bridgewater.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1222 "2018-08-11T16:25:51Z")

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A Seattle airline employee steals a plane, does stunts, crashes and dies: [Richard Russell: 'Heartbroken' family of Seattle airline employee remembers loving son | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/11/us/plane-crash-unauthorized-takeoff/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Fisheroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f17d59/32.png) [@Fisheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fisheroo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1223 "2018-09-10T00:41:42Z")

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I know some of you guys on here, and I just wanted to say I am finally in the process of getting my helicopter license after so many years of talking about it.

I’ve got a ways to go, and even yesterday was complete shitshow overload when I switched from a Schweizer 300 to a R22, but I still love it, and am glad I’m doing it.

Thanks for the support

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1224 "2018-09-12T18:20:21Z")

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[Super Connie](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/qantas-super-constellation-restored/) found & restored.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1225 "2018-09-12T18:27:18Z")

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> [@Fisheroo](#):
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> I’ve got a ways to go, and even yesterday was complete shitshow overload when I switched from a Schweizer 300 to a R22, but I still love it, and am glad I’m doing it.

I learned in an R22. After a lapse when I was regaining currency, my instructor said ‘You learned in an R22, didn’t you?’ I told him I did, and asked how he knew. He said, ‘You’re on top of the aircraft.’ 🆒

I prefer the 300, but IMO the R22 autorotates better. It’s like it’s ‘smoother’ or something.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1226 "2018-09-22T14:35:55Z")

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Who wants to land at [this](https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Japans-Typhoon-Jebi-Demonstrates-Vulnerability-Airports-Storm-Surge) airport? I’m assuming that’s all sand?

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1227 "2018-09-22T14:59:52Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> Who wants to land at [this](https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Japans-Typhoon-Jebi-Demonstrates-Vulnerability-Airports-Storm-Surge) airport? I’m assuming that’s all sand?

No, that’s all water.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1228 "2018-10-03T01:19:10Z")

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You can now get keychains that have been made from the actual fuselages of scrapped aircraft, civilian and military: [https://www.sportys.com/wrightbros/catalogsearch/result/?q=plane+tag](https://www.sportys.com/wrightbros/catalogsearch/result/?q=plane+tag)

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1229 "2018-10-03T03:06:18Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> You can now get keychains that have been made from the actual fuselages of scrapped aircraft, civilian and military: [https://www.sportys.com/wrightbros/catalogsearch/result/?q=plane+tag](https://www.sportys.com/wrightbros/catalogsearch/result/?q=plane+tag)

The previous charter company I worked for had some made up for us from a 747.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1230 "2018-10-15T16:24:55Z")

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With enough thrust, pigs fly just fine: [Wear smart Pigs Fly with Enough Thrust Funny T-shirt Men Woman](https://www.computergear.com/pigs-fly-funny-tshirt.html)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1231 "2018-10-24T03:53:10Z")

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A Canadian rapper dies in a wing-walking mishap: [Rapper Jon James dies at 34 dies during an airplane stunt while filming a music video | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/23/world/canadian-rapper-jon-james-mcmurray-dies-trnd/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1232 "2018-10-30T02:04:52Z")

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“The Last B-24” on PBS’s _Nova_, to air Nov. 7 - check local listings: [https://www.thirteen.org/programs/nova/last-b-24-preview-blj5ks/](https://www.thirteen.org/programs/nova/last-b-24-preview-blj5ks/)

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1233 "2018-11-10T22:58:12Z")

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I had my biennial flight review today (which went fine) but during the ground portion the instructor got a phone call.  
I knew something was up. Turns out his dad died :eek:  
Even though it was not unexpected I feel a bit guilty taking his time.  
He did say “well there is nothing I could do about it”

Brian

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1234 "2018-11-11T05:24:03Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> I had my biennial flight review today (which went fine) but during the ground portion the instructor got a phone call.  
> Brian

When I was instructing I brought a student to a checkride at the regional FSDO, to be conducted by a senior inspector. I was sitting in on the oral exam, which was going OK. Then the inspector got a phone message that his son had been taken to the hospital for an emergency appendectomy.

Despite the nerves that students feel when being examined by the FAA, I know the inspectors are under considerable pressure too. Flying with checkride applicants put them at some risk of liability, they have to do things by the book and are under a lot of scrutiny. And they’re supposed to have a reason when they discontinue a checkride.

So it was quite something to see this guy stopped in his tracks. He just didn’t know what to do, and was seemingly trapped in his thinking between the duty to his son and what the FAA would think of him bolting in the middle of a checkride. I actually had to urge him to go. Not only was that the right thing for him to do, I suspected he’d have a harder time being a hard-ass on my student when we resumed the checkride. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1235 "2018-11-14T01:21:44Z")

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You can add your name to the National Air and Space Museum’s Wall of Honor at the Udvar-Hazy Center, or honor someone else, by donating $100 (and up, if you want bigger letters): [https://support.si.edu/site/Donation2?df\_id=17256&mfc\_pref=T&17256.donation=form1](https://support.si.edu/site/Donation2?df_id=17256&mfc_pref=T&17256.donation=form1)

Call (202) 633-2603 for more details. PM me if you’d like my postcard code.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1236 "2018-11-14T02:43:59Z")

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Did a photo shoot at a salvage yard this weekend. The pieces & parts of old USAF planes that were there was incredible!  
[ul]  
[li]A TWA 707[/li][li]A ‘wall’ of at least 15 engines with some old fuselages on top.[/li][li]A ‘wall’ of F4 fuselage parts.[/li][li]An F-86 cockpit sitting on top of an old school bus[/li][li]The F-86 canopy was sitting on the roof of a car across the way.[/li][li]A KC-97 (cargo/tanker version of a B-29) cockpit sitting on top of an old school bus.[/li][li]Lots of stuff I couldn’t quite identify but it was from the aluminum skin days, like [this](https://www.flickr.com/photos/74663312@N08/31998957838/).[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Dave.B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@Dave.B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave.B)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1237 "2018-11-14T13:26:45Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> like [this](https://www.flickr.com/photos/74663312@N08/31998957838/).

Looks like a B-57A Canberra:  
[http://www.airpowerworld.info/bombers/martin-b-57a.jpg](http://www.airpowerworld.info/bombers/martin-b-57a.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1238 "2018-11-14T15:07:52Z")

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> [@Dave.B](#):
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> Looks like a B-57A Canberra:  
> [http://www.airpowerworld.info/bombers/martin-b-57a.jpg](http://www.airpowerworld.info/bombers/martin-b-57a.jpg)

The Dope comes thru, again.

Though in looking at other images on Google, that circle on the left side of the glass wasn’t there in all models.

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**Author:** ![Dave.B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@Dave.B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave.B)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1239 "2018-11-14T16:01:10Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> Though in looking at other images on Google, that circle on the left side of the glass wasn’t there in all models.

You’re right, on later models the canopy could be very different.

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1240 "2018-11-16T00:28:19Z")

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> [@Dave.B](#):
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> You’re right, on later models the canopy could be very different.

The first production run was largely a straight copy of the original British Canberra, with the British style cockpit canopy. Later models changed to a fighter-style canopy, as did the later British B(I).8 version.

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