# The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other) (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 23, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499 "2011-10-23T02:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1261 "2018-12-21T02:22:55Z")
OK, it looks like I’m going with Garmin Pilot as the software on an ipad. Is safetaxi included in Garmin North America US Standard subscription? What does Garmin North America Navigation Data provide that’s not included in North America US Standard subscription? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1262 "2018-12-27T23:33:02Z")
Air Force One is spotted and photographed in British airspace well before its landing in Iraq: [How Trump's secret trip to Iraq became not-so-secret | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/27/politics/donald-trump-secret-trip-iraq/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Dahu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dahu/32/3416_2.png) [@Dahu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dahu)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1263 "2019-01-13T12:44:13Z")
World’s biggest aircraft, Airlander 10, retired from service > **[Airlander 10: prototype of world's longest aircraft retired](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/worlds-biggest-aircraft-airlander-10-retired-from-service)** > > UK firm behind plane-airship hybrid says it will ‘rethink the skies’ to design new model After just six test flights, which weren’t exactly successful, > [@](#): > > However, it said that its focus now was on producing Airlander 10s for customers around the world, rather than continuing to develop prototypes. > > McGlennan said: “Instead we move ahead with a big job – eight years after the initial build of the prototype, we are now identifying our critical supplier partners, getting ready to design all the details that make the difference between a prototype and a product, and finalising the product certification plans. > > “Many people ask me this question – when will Airlander be flying again? My answer is this – look for many, many Airlanders flying again, ready to be delivered to customers and used around the world.” > > The original £25m model was first developed as a surveillance aircraft for the US army, and its first flight took place in 2012 before the programme was cancelled in 2013. > > HAV then reacquired it, reassembling the part-plane, part-airship and its four diesel engine-driven propellers at RAF Cardington, Bedfordshire, where it was being modified for civilian use. > > The company said it was in a “strong position to launch production” of the new aircraft, with the design already approved by the European Aviation Safety Agency. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1264 "2019-01-23T14:03:43Z")
Bahrain wants to turn a Boeing 747 into an artificial reef for divers: [Bahrain underwater theme park featuring Boeing jet to open in August | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/boeing-jet-underwater-park-bahrain/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1265 "2019-02-02T21:25:54Z")
How’d you like your vacation flight to Hawaii to have to turn around three $#@%^&! times?: [Hawaiian Airlines flight headed to Maui returned to LAX three times | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/02/us/hawaiian-flight-33-turn-back/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1266 "2019-02-11T14:19:14Z")
The U.S. Government shutdown ended after only 10 air traffic controllers stayed home: [The government shutdown ended after only 10 air traffic controllers stayed home | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/06/politics/ten-air-traffic-controllers-shutdown/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1267 "2019-02-19T19:48:35Z")
A commercial flight yesterday [reached a relative ground speed of 801 mph](https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/02/19/flight-reaches-mph-furious-jet-stream-packs-record-breaking-speeds) thanks to the jet stream. ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1268 "2019-02-19T21:26:35Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > A commercial flight yesterday [reached a relative ground speed of 801 mph](https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/02/19/flight-reaches-mph-furious-jet-stream-packs-record-breaking-speeds) thanks to the jet stream. I got up to 630 knots (approx 725 mph) groundspeed in my biz jet yesterday. That’s as fast as I’ve seen in this plane. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1269 "2019-02-20T01:15:14Z")
It’s going the other way that is a problem when mapping. You can’t change altitude. Saw 410 MPH GS in an old C-310Q and 490 MPH GS on a 601 Arrowstar. Flown backwards in little airplanes many times. That is always a blast for me. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1270 "2019-03-04T14:56:48Z")
That’s fast… but what was it like flying on the Concorde?: [Flying on the Concorde: What was it really like? | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/concorde-flying-what-was-it-like/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1271 "2019-03-05T18:47:57Z")
Drones are still a problem for major airports: [Airports scramble to handle drone incidents | CNN Business](https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/05/tech/airports-drones/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1272 "2019-03-14T19:54:38Z")
A cool piloting trick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob\_Hoover And I think this was posted here before, but just in case it wasn’t: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6NvBGb5lf78/hqdefault.jpg "Dog Goes Weightless In Airplane with Zero Gravity") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NvBGb5lf78) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1273 "2019-05-17T03:48:31Z")
Confessions of a VIP private jet flight attendant: [Private jet flight attendant shares her flying confessions | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/private-jet-flight-attendant/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1274 "2019-05-21T15:22:10Z")
A new proposal for hypersonic transatlantic travel: [New York to London in 90 minutes on a hypersonic jet? Hermeus says yes | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/hypersonic-jet-new-york-london-hermeus-intl/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1275 "2019-05-25T23:10:02Z")
A stunt helicopter shows off over NYC: [Red Bull helicopter does stunts over Statue of Liberty like airplane can | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/red-bull-stunt-helicopter-new-york/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1276 "2019-05-30T00:57:52Z")
I was shooting astro (photography) the other night & caught some planes, at cruising altitude, in my long exposures. Google Sky allows me to hold up my phone & by use of location & gyros shows me what stars/constellations I’m looking at. FlightAware shows me flight info on airplanes. Is there any (Android) app that combines the two, such that I can hold my phone up at a plane & find out that it’s AAL123 or DAL456 overhead? ---
**Author:** ![KCB615](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ea666f/32.png) [@KCB615](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KCB615)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1277 "2019-05-30T01:21:18Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > I was shooting astro (photography) the other night & caught some planes, at cruising altitude, in my long exposures. > > Google Sky allows me to hold up my phone & by use of location & gyros shows me what stars/constellations I’m looking at. > FlightAware shows me flight info on airplanes. > > Is there any (Android) app that combines the two, such that I can hold my phone up at a plane & find out that it’s AAL123 or DAL456 overhead? Flightradar24 does exactly that. Uses an AR thingy through the phone’s camera and gives the details of passing aircraft. There is a free membership level that gives some details, and pay memberships that give additional info on the planes. ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1278 "2019-05-30T23:52:45Z")
Aviation related: My current job is to replace the obsolete fire alarm system in the [SAC Air and Space Museum](https://sacmuseum.org/what-to-see/aircraft/) in Ashland Nebraska. If any of you aviation fans come within a hundred miles or so. this is worth the side trip ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1279 "2019-06-06T03:56:44Z")
Happy Hot Air Balloon Day! [One](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/d-day-douglas-c-53-plane-england/) of the 30 Dakotas that formation flew earlier today; the largest gathering since WWII. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499/1280 "2019-06-06T04:06:09Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > …[One](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/d-day-douglas-c-53-plane-england/) of the 30 Dakotas that formation flew earlier today; the largest gathering since WWII. Very cool - thanks! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499.md?page=63) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499.md?page=65)