# The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other) (Part 1)

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NOTAM 2/9510 says, in part:

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> ALL AIRCRAFT, REGARDLESS OF THE STATE OF REGISTRY, OWNED, CHARTERED, LEASED, OPERATED OR CONTROLLED BY, FOR, OR FOR THE BENEFIT OF, A PERSON WHO IS A CITIZEN OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION ARE PROHIBITED FROM OPERATING TO, FROM, WITHIN, OR THROUGH U.S. TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE

They’re discussing this over at  
[https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/t4smet/notam\_29510\_and\_russianamericans/](https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/t4smet/notam_29510_and_russianamericans/)

They are specifically wondering if Russian citizens legally in the United States are grounded from general aviation activities. The discussion is focusing on being a CFI or a student if you are a Russian citizen (ETA: Or even simply being a passenger on a regular scheduled commercial domestic airline flight).

I happen to know one such person (a CFI / ASEL in the S. F. area), who just yesterday had occasion to send me an e-mail including this comment:

> There’s a slim chance that ban-all-russians NOTAM precludes me from teaching, I’ll let you know if that frees my weekend up!

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