# The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other) (Part 1)

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**Created:** [October 23, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499 "2011-10-23T02:17:01Z")\
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He’s real nose high and mushing from the git-go. Looks like flaps are up. Which at first glance is an odd configuration for an impending landing. Could be either a stall / incipient spin or a Vmc roll.

My bet is Vmc roll. I’d expect a more violent wing-drop if it was a true stall. Whether there was already an engine / prop failure or we just watched one happen in real time I can’t say. Or maybe they just got real slow, noticed the mistake, crammed on full throttle, and one engine accelerated normally while the other took its time. Any of those can trigger a Vmc problem.

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