# The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other) (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 23, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499 "2011-10-23T02:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5886
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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > I’ve never understood the “problem” of people dressing down to fly. Apart from a garment with an overtly unkind message (which would anger me anywhere and I’ve only rarely encountered in the wild), I can’t imagine being bothered by someone’s clothes. Be comfortable. Suits and ties are stupid, performative, and contribute nothing (as the non-wearer) to my experience as a passenger. If you like 'em, wear 'em. But I won’t. Similarly, wear sweats, a bikini or a gorilla suit for all I care. The conventional wisdom is that dressing smartly conveys a certain respect for your fellow passengers. It says that you care what they think of you, whereas someone who shows up looking like a homeless bum and perhaps with similar hygiene habits clearly does not. And that tends to be the kind of person whose lack of social graces causes trouble. I’m not suggesting that men must dress formally in a suit and tie, or women in equivalent business attire, but for heaven’s sake people, you’re out in very public places – show some small modicum of respect for your fellow humans. The lack of civility and downright fisticuffs that tend to happen on flights these days are part and parcel of the same thing. > [@Magiver](#): > > Times have changed and it isn’t the lack of an unofficial dress code. It’s lack of civility. People dressed their best because it followed their behavior. Not the other way around. I agree. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other-part-1/600499)._