# The Great Ongoing Guitar Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [January 31, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172 "2010-01-31T23:20:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2022 "2011-10-05T19:01:37Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> I’m sorry to tell you that [Marv Tarplin](http://www.spinner.ca/2011/10/05/marv-tarplin-dies/) has passed away.

You know, I was not familiar with his name - thanks for fighting my ignorance.

Smokey Robinson and the Miracles’ guitarist? Co-wrote Tracks of My Tears? Whoa.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2023 "2011-10-06T01:36:18Z")

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> **[Need Acoustic Guitar Instrumentals in Open C](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=626821)**
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> Hi all, I’m trying to build a set of covers to play while busking. The thing is, I can’t sing worth a damn, and I hate retuning my guitar. My favourite tuning is open C so I’m looking for as many instrumentals in that tuning as I can find. So far...

George Kaplin could use some help with some acoustic guitar instrumentals.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2024 "2011-10-10T01:20:34Z")

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Just when I decide the XV-890 will suffice for what I want: a nice guitar with a trem, and a little style… Fender releases something new.

> **[Fender Modern Player Marauder Electric Guitar](https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/fender-modern-player-marauder-electric-guitar)**
>
> Get the guaranteed best price on Solid Body Electric Guitars like the Fender Modern Player Marauder Electric Guitar at Musician's Friend. Get a low price and free shipping on thousands of items.

The Fender Marauder. Offset body like I love. 25.5 inch scale, not 24 inch like a jaguar. Aesthetically, it’s got the 70s chunky headstock I like. The pickups are strange. It’s a jazzmaster at the neck, which is good, the thick single coil sound I like… then a triplebucker at the bridge. But I found the wiring diagram. It’s like a HSS Strat.

> **[null](https://www.andertons.co.uk/News/aid1116/how-the-new-fender-modern-player-triplebucker-pickup-works.asp)**
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> null

And it’s even affordable. Sure, it’s no Floyd Rose, but I don’t really need a Floyd Rose.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2025 "2011-10-10T15:36:49Z")

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Guitars?  
Oh yes, I remember them.  
Those are the things that sit unused in a room of my house while I rebuild my fence and deck.  
My arthritic hands are so sore and beat up from working with them that making a fist is just too painful.

Looking forward to bad weather days and some much needed practice (noodling) time.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2026 "2011-10-10T19:02:29Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> The Fender Marauder. Offset body like I love. 25.5 inch scale, not 24 inch like a jaguar. Aesthetically, it’s got the 70s chunky headstock I like. The pickups are strange. It’s a jazzmaster at the neck, which is good, the thick single coil sound I like… then a triplebucker at the bridge. But I found the wiring diagram. It’s like a HSS Strat.

I was just emailing with a friend who brought this guitar up. Oy; when I see stuff like that triple-bucker, it is hard not to giggle a little bit, like the coils on a pickup are like blades on razor - and then I think about that Nigel Tufnel guitar with a, like, 8-coil pickup or something. One coil is sufficient; two can be used to solve the hum problem; much past that, I start to go :dubious:

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2027 "2011-10-10T19:31:57Z")

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That is pretty much exactly why I want it, WordMan. I like a nice amount of stupid. But I did link the wiring diagram, and it basically matches a HSS design. How does a HSS with the single and humbucker together sound?

Bubba, did you know there was a study that showed exercise prevents arthritis? Isn’t it odd how many aged blues players there are that can still play their guitar? Can you think of even one who has serious arthritis problems in their fingers who was a guitarist from younger days?

Rock. It’s good for you.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2028 "2011-10-12T05:15:32Z")

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Well, at least there seems to be a normal tone control, rather than that whacked ‘blend’ knob in the Pawnshop model discussed upthread. But, yeah, a three coil pickup has a certain amount of stupid that may be cool in the right circumstances, if all other factors are pleasant.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2029 "2011-10-12T12:54:31Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> That is pretty much exactly why I want it, WordMan. I like a nice amount of stupid.

If I used a sig, this would be worthy.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2030 "2011-10-12T13:29:13Z")

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Well, you know, there’s a fine line. And, all things considered, I grew up with hair metal and the 80s.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2031 "2011-10-17T02:21:06Z")

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For guitar, I have a chorus effect and a (very old) Big Muff (usable for bass as well), but I was looking through my zzounds catalog page and saw a bunch of pedals for both instruments, so I thought I’d come here and check what pedals you guys use.

I’d like to stay away from multy-effects boxes completely, and keep the price under $50.00. Used is okay too.

To **E** : I always wondered how old you were, bud, and now I know at least an age range. _Young’un_.;)🙂

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Small\_Clanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Small\_Clanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Clanger)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2032 "2011-10-17T09:55:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Quasimodem]  
…I thought I’d come here and check what pedals you guys use.  
[/QUOTE]  
The only effect I wouldn’t go without is a delay unit for a) slapback b) Gilmour-esk ‘bouncing’ riffs c) actual echo effects.

My last gigging setup was three Boss pedals:

Turbo distortion  
[Dimension-C (DC-2)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVQkHJ2prGo)  
DDL

and a bit of amp reverb.

Why the frak did I let the DC-2 go :mad:😕☹ Why did Boss stop making them?

Currently use a Guyatone tube distortion (TD-1) for when I want to get overdrive without bothering the neighbours, one DDL setup for slapback another for longer delays and a multi-effects box that I only use for reverb. These days the turbo distortion is a doorstop, literally.

As for suggesting something you could actually get your hands on. I’d go for a delay unit of some kind, lots of fun things you can do with echo.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2033 "2011-10-17T10:09:19Z")

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I am cheap. And thanks to a number of good deals, I have a complete line of Cool Cat pedals. They’re pretty okay, especially for the price.  
(I got five of them unused in boxes as used, etc.)

> **[CoolCatTone](http://www.coolcattone.com/product_to.html)**
>
> All about Cool Cat Products

However, I’ll be honest, since I’m just playing for myself, I mostly just stick with the built-in effects on my Vox DA-5 modelling amp.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2034 "2011-10-17T11:38:56Z")

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> [@Small\_Clanger](#):
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> The only effect I wouldn’t go without is a delay unit for a) slapback b) Gilmour-esk ‘bouncing’ riffs c) actual echo effects.
> 
> My last gigging setup was three Boss pedals:
> 
> Turbo distortion  
> [Dimension-C (DC-2)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVQkHJ2prGo)  
> DDL
> 
> and a bit of amp reverb.
> 
> Why the frak did I let the DC-2 go :mad:😕☹ Why did Boss stop making them?
> 
> Currently use a Guyatone tube distortion (TD-1) for when I want to get overdrive without bothering the neighbours, one DDL setup for slapback another for longer delays and a multi-effects box that I only use for reverb. These days the turbo distortion is a doorstop, literally.
> 
> As for suggesting something you could actually get your hands on. I’d go for a delay unit of some kind, lots of fun things you can do with echo.

I’m basically here, too: I have a dirtbox of some sort - had been an old ProCo Rat but has recently been a Blackstone Mosfet Overdrive. I recently got an analog delay - just an MXR Carbon Copy - to add a bit of slapback for some parts. Haven’t played with Gilmoury type of settings yet, but probably should - any tips **Small Clanger**?

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**Author:** ![Small\_Clanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Small\_Clanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Clanger)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2035 "2011-10-17T12:10:35Z")

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[QUOTE=WordMan]  
… any tips **Small Clanger**?  
[/QUOTE]  
Well, you could get some flashing lights and [do it properly](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2aOccbfAqE) (David at work).

I’ve forgotten how to do the skip-to-time thing in youtube but maybe it’s best to watch the whole thing anyway, the build up is… quite effective.

I think he’s using a delay of about 300ms (looks like your Carbon Copy can do that) with a hefty amount of regeneration, apart from that it’s just case of timing the ‘bounce’ right. Much easier to demonstrate than to describe.

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2036 "2011-10-17T12:20:16Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> …so I thought I’d come here and check what pedals you guys use.

Unless you count a tuner pedal as an effect, I don’t really use effects.

I own quite a few different effects units, and I do use them on occasion, but my standard setup for my main thing is just guitar-\> tuner pedal -\> clean amp. I went through a lengthy period of only playing acoustic, and now that I’m back playing electric, I find that what works best for me is something kind-of like an acoustic sound. Only louder.

Actually I think of it as like a pre-fusion jazz guitar sound, except that I couldn’t play a jazz tune if my life depended on it.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2037 "2011-10-17T13:19:55Z")

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> [@Small\_Clanger](#):
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> Well, you could get some flashing lights and [do it properly](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2aOccbfAqE) (David at work).
> 
> I’ve forgotten how to do the skip-to-time thing in youtube but maybe it’s best to watch the whole thing anyway, the build up is… quite effective.
> 
> I think he’s using a delay of about 300ms (looks like your Carbon Copy can do that) with a hefty amount of regeneration, apart from that it’s just case of timing the ‘bounce’ right. Much easier to demonstrate than to describe.

Yeah, I used to use delay this way a bit when both The Edge and Gilmour did a lot of it. I found it was a bit busy - it was a distraction that kept me from really listening to what I was playing and sounding musical. I should go back and try it now to see if I have slowed down a bit and can make it sound beautiful instead of just cool…

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2038 "2011-10-22T05:05:41Z")

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I hope this is the right thread for asking this:

I need help with Sesame Street song tab. Specifically,[the O song](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiytkIXTkAo) (YouTube link). I just need the chords.

I am going to play at a friend’s child’s birthday party and this was requested. It’s in C (I think) then moves to D then G but after that I’m lost. Any takers?

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2039 "2011-10-22T05:19:18Z")

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**PJ** , have you tried [chordie](http://www.chordie.com)? That’s where I go for tabs/chords. Break a leg at your gig!

Quasi

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2040 "2011-10-22T06:43:54Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
>
> **PJ** , have you tried [chordie](http://www.chordie.com)? That’s where I go for tabs/chords. Break a leg at your gig!
> 
> Quasi

Hey thanks, **Quasi**. I had not tried chordie before posting. I’ve searched the site and didn’t find it. I’ve also searched every where else on the net I could think of to no avail.

Normally I wouldn’t ask but this seems like such a simple song I thought someone could bang it out in a few minutes. Anyway, thanks for the link - it’s good to have another resource!

Jain

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2041 "2011-10-22T08:30:01Z")

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I think it’s C D G the first time round, then basically C Am, C Am G thereafter. Alternating bass notes with the thumb.  
The chords may be simple, but the time signature seems quite irregular, so maybe not quite so simple overall.

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