# The Great Ongoing Guitar Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [January 31, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172 "2010-01-31T23:20:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2603 "2012-06-11T16:54:48Z")

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Yes, that hole is a CNC router jig hole.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2604 "2012-06-11T17:45:21Z")

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> [@Shakester](#):
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> Yes, that hole is a CNC router jig hole.

Thanks, that was my guess as well, as I couldn’t think of any other reason for it to be there.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2605 "2012-06-11T18:48:24Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> \*\*E-Sabs \*\*- it sounds great plugged in. With its body and the somewhat hotter pickup, it is a bit brighter/more waspy in tone vs. my Blackguard with the Donahue. But it delivers that classic Tele brightness and versatility. No complaints with the Volume and Tone controls, either - although I will probably swap in new pots at some point simply to give my son the practice doing it and because it is a cheap and easy upgrade. Thanks again.

No more thanks, man. I’m just glad it’s got a good home. By the way, if you’re doing that, the mini-hum _is_ a four wire. Which means you can split the coils, if you add a push-pull knob, or a little switch in the plate.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2606 "2012-06-11T20:59:07Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> No more thanks, man. I’m just glad it’s got a good home. By the way, if you’re doing that, the mini-hum _is_ a four wire. Which means you can split the coils, if you add a push-pull knob, or a little switch in the plate.

If there is one thing I learned when I built my Tele Special, is that I really like to keep things simple. No more switches or anything. Two pickups, a selector, 1 volume and 1 tone - I’m good.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2607 "2012-06-12T04:02:26Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> If there is one thing I learned when I built my Tele Special, is that I really like to keep things simple. No more switches or anything. Two pickups, a selector, 1 volume and 1 tone - I’m good.

But it’s your kids’ guitar, right? You should totally add 4 more knobs, 17 toggle switches (some of which actually work, but do nothing useful to the tone), and a mysterious light on the headstock that goes on for no apparent reason. Just to mess with them.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2608 "2012-06-12T04:11:29Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> I will miss having a 3-ply version, I rather like the black stripe on the edge.

So of course I now find [this 3-ply, vintage-colored white pickguard](http://www.guitarfetish.com/Telecaster-Pickguard-1964-Aged-White-8-Hole_p_1229.html) on - where else? - GFS/GuitarFetish’s site. I’ve already gotten confirmation that the 1-ply guard is on the way, so I’ll just wait to see if that works well for me. Hell, the 1-ply version was $11, so not a big deal either way if I order yet another pickguard from GFS.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2609 "2012-06-13T11:38:42Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> So of course I now find [this 3-ply, vintage-colored white pickguard](http://www.guitarfetish.com/Telecaster-Pickguard-1964-Aged-White-8-Hole_p_1229.html) on - where else? - GFS/GuitarFetish’s site. I’ve already gotten confirmation that the 1-ply guard is on the way, so I’ll just wait to see if that works well for me. Hell, the 1-ply version was $11, so not a big deal either way if I order yet another pickguard from GFS.

Yep, I went through a few that way. All part of the fun - dialing it in right for what you want.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2610 "2012-06-14T01:41:06Z")

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Wordman, is there anywhere local I can get a new pickguard? I don’t feel… happy… about disassembling Blondie (JT90, blackguard) and mailing the currently irreplacable pickguard off. I need it before I try to bring Trouble (JT90, #1, sunburst) back to life.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2611 "2012-06-14T11:56:16Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> Wordman, is there anywhere local I can get a new pickguard? I don’t feel… happy… about disassembling Blondie (JT90, blackguard) and mailing the currently irreplacable pickguard off. I need it before I try to bring Trouble (JT90, #1, sunburst) back to life.

I am not sure I follow your situation - you need a pickguard made of a different material and you could mail in your current pg so they could copy it but you are reluctant to do so? - but that isn’t your question. Sure - the Guitar Center in Larchmont and the Sam Ash in White Plains both sell inexpensive Tele pg’s. The biggest issue is how close to Tele spec your guitar actually is. Some Tele-types are slavish and Tele parts work like a charm; other ones are just visually similar at best and not close in terms of specs.

If your pickguard is uniquely Xaviere, then you would either have to check online or send the pg some place to be traced and copied. But I would assume the website you got it at sells stuff like that??

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2612 "2012-06-14T12:02:22Z")

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Look at the Creamsicle (JT90, #2). It’s got an off horn that Teles don’t. Yes, there are places I could mail it in. No, GFS doesn’t sell that specific guard, annoyingly.  
Trouble got smashed, the pickguard’s gone, and I really should get a replacement for it.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2613 "2012-06-14T12:07:35Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> Look at the Creamsicle (JT90, #2). It’s got an off horn that Teles don’t. Yes, there are places I could mail it in. No, GFS doesn’t sell that specific guard, annoyingly.  
> Trouble got smashed, the pickguard’s gone, and I really should get a replacement for it.

Sorry - spaced; wasn’t thinking a “Telemaster” blended design. Yep, mailing it in is all I have. Don’t any places offer a service where you could fax in a paper tracing?? Just thinking out loud.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2614 "2012-06-15T03:25:24Z")

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Kinda OT, but I thought some of you guitar players might like to see this-- [Pete and Jeff playing _Love Reign O’er Me_ with The BBC Orchestra.](http://youtu.be/XuWoLR_fU-k)

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2615 "2012-06-15T12:44:32Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Kinda OT, but I thought some of you guitar players might like to see this-- [Pete and Jeff playing _Love Reign O’er Me_ with The BBC Orchestra.](http://youtu.be/XuWoLR_fU-k)

Swoon!

Beck looks great in his white tie and tux. But damn if he doesn’t make his guitar sound like Roger Daltrey. His technique is magically incomprehensible to me.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2616 "2012-06-16T06:41:49Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> Wordman, is there anywhere local I can get a new pickguard? I don’t feel… happy… about disassembling Blondie (JT90, blackguard) and mailing the currently irreplacable pickguard off. I need it before I try to bring Trouble (JT90, #1, sunburst) back to life.

Have you considered writing GFS and telling them what happened, which might be summarized as your beloved JT90 getting damaged by a friend, meanwhile you were telling anyone who would listen how cool GFS guitars were? All of which is true (well, I’m scant on what exactly happened to damage your guitar, except that it wasn’t your doing). I’d think under such circumstances, especially for a booster of their products, they might see a way to spiff you (or at least offer at a nominal fee) a pickguard.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2617 "2012-06-16T17:06:00Z")

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I have written to them, they have none to spare, for that specific model.

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**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2618 "2012-06-17T13:28:05Z")

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Estafeta, the Mexican parcel service dropped off my new (to me) Reverend Daredevil H90 yesterday afternoon. I had to adjust the neck slightly and raise the action when I put new strings on it. I had read that the 2 hole Wilkinson EZ Lock tuners could be a little difficult but after the first 2 strings I found it fairly easy.

I have had my eye on Reverends for awhile and I am more than happy with this model. The neck is very comfortable, the pick ups are hotter than what I am used to and the base contour feature is kind of cool and allows you to dial in the sound you are looking for.

I am impressed. In a lot of guitar reviews for inexpensive makes and models say that that certain guitar is as good as a more expensive model. In this case I reall believe it is true.

Now I’m suffering serious gas pains over the Reverend Club King.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2619 "2012-06-18T11:45:51Z")

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I have never actually played one - would love to. Heard many good things and contemplated getting one of the Made in USA ones a few years ago, but ended up changing my focus to building an electric, not buying one…

Congrats - sounds like it lives up to the reputation. I like their look, too.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2620 "2012-06-19T15:57:59Z")

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I’ve been kind of tempted by the Reverend Six Gun, myself. But no, I’ll go for the Marauder. When I can get use out of it.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2621 "2012-06-20T05:51:54Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> I’ve been kind of tempted by the Reverend Six Gun, myself. But no, I’ll go for the Marauder. When I can get use out of it.

Are the Marauder and Daredevil retired models? The [Reverend web site](http://www.reverendguitars.com/) has no mention I could find.

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**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2622 "2012-06-20T11:47:06Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> Are the Marauder and Daredevil retired models? The [Reverend web site](http://www.reverendguitars.com/) has no mention I could find.

The Daredevil is discontinued. It evolved into the Sensei.The changes, as far as I know, where cosmetic, body shape mostly. The DD in the link below is identical to mine.  
I think the other poster was referring to the Fender Marauder.

[http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/images/30U/30U-14870\_body-front.jpg](http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/images/30U/30U-14870_body-front.jpg)

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