# The Great Ongoing Guitar Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [January 31, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172 "2010-01-31T23:20:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 136
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2703 "2012-09-03T02:32:17Z")
The Shadows are one of those forgotten rock bands that were critically important for a period. Like the Pixies, for a later generation. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2704 "2012-09-10T15:36:44Z")
I have a chance to buy a used Taylor Big Baby for $300 (+$30 shipping). Does that sound reasonable? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2705 "2012-09-10T15:41:06Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I have a chance to buy a used Taylor Big Baby for $300 (+$30 shipping). Does that sound reasonable? They list for $450 new - you are looking at ~30% less. Fine, but not great - $250 would be a truly good deal, IMHO. I have a regular Baby Taylor AND a Taylor GS-Mini as knockabout travel guitars. When I was checking out the GS Mini, I tried a Big Baby and found I much preferred the GS Mini’s tone - sounded more like a balanced, full-sized guitar to my ear. My Baby now sounds positively small vs. the GS Mini and the Big Baby’s I tried were just not quite as good as the GS Mini. To my knowledge both the Big Baby and the GS Mini are 7/8 size normal; but the BB is based on a dreadnaught shape and the GS is based on their, well, GS shape - I think it stands for Grand Symphony or something in full sized form… ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2706 "2012-09-10T17:52:21Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > They list for $450 new - you are looking at ~30% less. Fine, but not great - $250 would be a truly good deal, IMHO. > . Actually, that’s what I offered, and he came back with the $300. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2707 "2012-09-10T17:53:24Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Actually, that’s what I offered, and he came back with the $300. 🙂 Then meh. You should try out a GS Mini and if you like it better, go for that…if not, see if the BB is still available… ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2708 "2012-09-10T18:45:16Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Actually, that’s what I offered, and he came back with the $300. 🙂 Looks like you are over on the Acoustic Guitar Forum asking about it, too? I see a thread was started asking the same question. Smart. Ask them if they would prefer a Big Baby or a GS Mini. Right now they usual suspects over there seem to love the GS Mini more… ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2709 "2012-09-11T14:52:00Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Looks like you are over on the Acoustic Guitar Forum asking about it, too? I see a thread was started asking the same question. Smart. Ask them if they would prefer a Big Baby or a GS Mini. Right now they usual suspects over there seem to love the GS Mini more… Dang it, Wordman, I could keep going up the Taylor food chain but I’m not made of money.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2710 "2012-09-11T18:14:39Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Dang it, Wordman, I could keep going up the Taylor food chain but I’m not made of money.🙂 The HUGE thing right now over on the Acoustic Guitar Forum is “Taylor BTO” - Build to Order. Hugely popular with the Worship Guitar crowd (i.e., who lead songs at church - Taylor has a dominant brand presence there) but also with other Taylor fans. It’s their Custom Shop, where you can geek out and specify the design, materials and bling. Costs run up well over $5,000 easily. It’s their Cadillac vs. the Big Baby being the Chevy Nova. Taylor really has been effective at positioning their brand across a variety of guitar target markets. Even to the point that Robert Taylor had started a splinter company, R. Taylor, to make very high-end “boutique” acoustics, but I believe they suspended the line because customers were more likely to just by a Taylor BTO. BTO’s are not my cuppa, personally. I prefer to position my guitars as tools, so prefer simplicity in design - I don’t even like a bound neck. And BTO’s often reflect either the poor taste of the person, or the hype features that are getting a lot of buzz right now, so I will be curious how well the resale ends up being over time. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2711 "2012-09-11T21:14:08Z")
I’m over here on my Taylor finding out Alice’s Restaurant is devilishly hard to play. Who knew? That Arlo sumbitch makes it sounds easy as a diner pie. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2712 "2012-09-12T16:29:57Z")
Welcoming two new babies into the household…I’ve been hobbling along on my first $100 electric guitar for far too long and needed an upgrade. A 2003 Fender Telecaster Slimline…an all-blonde semi-hollowbody that sounds lovely and plays great. And an impulse that I wasn’t planning on getting but couldn’t pass up since it was dirt cheap and needed a loving home…A 1968 Teisco EP-8T, some cosmetic wear and tear that needs fixing, but sounds like a rottweiler riding a Harley when it plays. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2713 "2012-09-12T16:44:57Z")
> [@GargoyleWB](#): > > Welcoming two new babies into the household…I’ve been hobbling along on my first $100 electric guitar for far too long and needed an upgrade. > > A 2003 Fender Telecaster Slimline…an all-blonde semi-hollowbody that sounds lovely and plays great. > > And an impulse that I wasn’t planning on getting but couldn’t pass up since it was dirt cheap and needed a loving home…A 1968 Teisco EP-8T, some cosmetic wear and tear that needs fixing, but sounds like a rottweiler riding a Harley when it plays. Congrats! Love those Tele’s and that Teisco looks like Jack White would be drooling to play it! ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2714 "2012-09-29T16:40:12Z")
[![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/LaPucelle/Guitar/CanvasFront_zps4e11b1db.jpg) ](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/LaPucelle/Guitar/CanvasFront_zps4e11b1db.jpg) New axe day. $80. Think I got a good deal. Pickups are a bit horrible, but that can be fixed. Handmade, admittedly in china, company was one of those companies that makes _all_ the chinese guitars (Sejung), decided to make their own high end line, discovered it was too expensive and closed it down. It’s a Canvas CTF20. Perfectly bookmatched flamed top. Two point trem, which is interesting. Little heavy, but very comfortable. Not sure how best to describe it. Offset double-cutaway? It’s got a 15 or so degree neck angle, no string trees, no dip and curve like a Fender. In the picture, yes, the E-string had snapped, the strings were at least three years old. ---
**Author:** ![Emily\_Litella](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emily_litella/32/3370_2.png) [@Emily\_Litella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emily_Litella)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2715 "2012-09-30T06:17:39Z")
I haven’t read this thread, it’s late,I bin drinkin, but I just wanted to throw this in here for inspiration: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dg47SqM5Zbw/hqdefault.jpg "Govt Mule with Jackie Greene - Can't You See 08.15.2010") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg47SqM5Zbw) Warren Haynes ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2716 "2012-09-30T23:58:21Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/LaPucelle/Guitar/CanvasFront\_zps4e11b1db.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/LaPucelle/Guitar/CanvasFront_zps4e11b1db.jpg) > > New axe day. $80. Think I got a good deal. Pickups are a bit horrible, but that can be fixed. > Handmade, admittedly in china, company was one of those companies that makes _all_ the chinese guitars (Sejung), decided to make their own high end line, discovered it was too expensive and closed it down. > > It’s a Canvas CTF20. Perfectly bookmatched flamed top. Two point trem, which is interesting. Little heavy, but very comfortable. Not sure how best to describe it. Offset double-cutaway? It’s got a 15 or so degree neck angle, no string trees, no dip and curve like a Fender. > In the picture, yes, the E-string had snapped, the strings were at least three years old. Nice, Sabs. I wonder how the finish got rubbed off the top near the chord jack. Lefty playing a right-handed guitar? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2717 "2012-10-01T11:35:26Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Nice, Sabs. I wonder how the finish got rubbed off the top near the chord jack. Lefty playing a right-handed guitar? I thought it was a light reflection, not a finish issue. **Sabs**? Either way, very cool and could be fun to tinker with if you are already considering swapping out the pickups. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2718 "2012-10-01T18:43:33Z")
Light reflection. And it’s a 15 degree headstock angle. Yeah, I was thinking of this for the neck and mid. [http://store.guitarfetish.com/Brighton-Rock-Vintage-Spec-Alnico-Pickups-Classic-Queen-sound\_p\_1514.html](http://store.guitarfetish.com/Brighton-Rock-Vintage-Spec-Alnico-Pickups-Classic-Queen-sound_p_1514.html) and maybe this for the bridge. [http://store.guitarfetish.com/Bigmouth-Bridge-Pickup-POWER-with-vintage-Tone-Bridge-Position\_p\_102.html](http://store.guitarfetish.com/Bigmouth-Bridge-Pickup-POWER-with-vintage-Tone-Bridge-Position_p_102.html) Visually and sonically distinctive. Going to need to wire the middle out of phase, I believe, for proper Queen sound. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2719 "2012-10-02T01:06:12Z")
Anyone know of a tab for Little Steven’s ["Until the Good is Gone](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgUgnhEwlew)", especially the intro? Yeah, I’m too lazy to figure it out myself. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2720 "2012-10-11T17:01:00Z")
> **[3D Printing: The printed guitar - The Acoustic Guitar Forum](https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268712)** > > 3D Printing: The printed guitar General Acoustic Guitar Discussion Pretty cool! On the guitar message board where I came across this, I posted: [50 years in the future] You know why those early printed guitars are so much more valuable? They used old analog programming and the plastic was stuff you just can’t get anymore. No wonder they go for so much these days!! 😉 [/50 years in the future] ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2721 "2012-10-13T20:14:33Z")
Hey, Wordman? Let’s say I have a HSS guitar, and I wire it up like this. [![](https://i.imgur.com/wKSmR.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/wKSmR.png) Do I want a normal pickup in the middle, or a reverse wound/reverse phase like a normal Strat? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/2722 "2012-10-14T02:28:51Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Hey, Wordman? Let’s say I have a HSS guitar, and I wire it up like this. > [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/wKSmR.png) > > Do I want a normal pickup in the middle, or a reverse wound/reverse phase like a normal Strat? If you’re asking from a “read the circuit” standpoint, **Sabs** , I won’t be much help. But from a what’s typical, I believe that yes, you want a RW/RP middle to work correctly with positions 2&4…I’d think you’d find clarity checking other circuit diagrams from Fender.cim or Seymour Duncan’s site… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=135) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=137)