# The Great Ongoing Guitar Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [January 31, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172 "2010-01-31T23:20:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 184
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3664 "2014-08-08T20:38:31Z")
Thanks Wordman, good explanation. So if I ever sell I can point to my authentic period relic-ing and tack on another $500 to the price. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3665 "2014-08-08T21:04:44Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Unfortunately, 70ā€™s Fendersā€™ finishes are part of the ā€œwhy 70ā€™s Fenders sucked so badā€ legend. The great news is that Teleā€™s from the 70ā€™s still usually had 4-bolt necks and other features that were changed on 70ā€™s Strats, so you donā€™t have to deal with those issue, but the finishes were questionable at best. My first electric was a 70ā€™s Fender Lead that was redā€¦to begin with. The finish started turning milky a few years later, and finish separation with those early poly finishes were just another complication. > > If you like the guitar, awesome - Keef played the crap out of his 70ā€™s Teleā€™s and they are starting to command collectorsā€™ premiums. But I wouldnā€™t expect a lot in terms of preservation. Itā€™s hard to beat hand-rubbed shellac. As my woodworking teacher always says: ā€œWhatā€™s the question? The answer is ā€œshellac.ā€ā€ ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3666 "2014-08-08T21:06:40Z")
**Gargoyle** , I forgot to mention it, but that is a pretty looking guitar you have there. I suspect you prolly wonā€™t get extra for the reliccing, unless you get famous! šŸ˜‰ Incidentally, I have a '72 Warmoth Thinline body I built up with a MIJ Fender tele neck and I love it! I recently added a Bigsby and I think it was worth the time. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2014, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3667 "2014-08-10T04:18:35Z")
Why not get a tele with an piezo bridge? [http://www.fender.com/series/deluxe/deluxe-nashville-power-tele-rosewood-fingerboard-2-color-sunburst/](http://www.fender.com/series/deluxe/deluxe-nashville-power-tele-rosewood-fingerboard-2-color-sunburst/) Itā€™ll get you many of the sounds you want. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3668 "2014-08-10T14:48:50Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Why not get a tele with an piezo bridge? > [http://www.fender.com/series/deluxe/deluxe-nashville-power-tele-rosewood-fingerboard-2-color-sunburst/](http://www.fender.com/series/deluxe/deluxe-nashville-power-tele-rosewood-fingerboard-2-color-sunburst/) > Itā€™ll get you many of the sounds you want. Hmmm. That looks like a possibility. One odd thing: on Amazon, they have one vendor selling them for under $600, while the others are up in the $900 range. Wonder what thatā€™s all about? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3669 "2014-08-10T16:56:16Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Hmmm. That looks like a possibility. One odd thing: on Amazon, they have one vendor selling them for under $600, while the others are up in the $900 range. Wonder what thatā€™s all about? Ah, now I see. Itā€™s not made in America. ---
**Author:** ![Stormcrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@Stormcrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stormcrow)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3670 "2014-09-08T18:44:04Z")
I was sorely tempted this weekend - I stopped by a garage sale and they had a Fender Standard Telecaster (made in mexico) and a Dean Fretless electric upright bass, for $250 each. I thought about offering $400 for the pair, but ultimately decided I couldnā€™t justify the expense, since Iā€™m really just beginning to learn the guitar (and what the heck am I going to do with an upright bass anyway?) I have a feeling Iā€™m going to have that niggling ā€œshoulda bought itā€ feeling for a while though. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3671 "2014-09-08T19:07:16Z")
> [@Stormcrow](#): > > I have a feeling Iā€™m going to have that niggling ā€œshoulda bought itā€ feeling for a while though. Not to make it worse, but those Mexican ā€œStandardā€ Fenders are really some of the best values out there, on the new or used market. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3672 "2014-09-10T14:18:58Z")
+1, Shoulda bought them. Of course, you could always go back and ask if they still have them; just sayinā€™. Hey, not many people have an upright bass so the bragging rights alone may be worth itā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3673 "2014-09-10T14:20:20Z")
**Chefguy** , how goes the guitar search? ---
**Author:** ![Stormcrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@Stormcrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stormcrow)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3674 "2014-09-10T14:25:06Z")
> [@swampspruce](#): > > +1, Shoulda bought them. Of course, you could always go back and ask if they still have them; just sayinā€™. Hey, not many people have an upright bass so the bragging rights alone may be worth itā€¦ I actually did find the e-mail of the people holding the sale, so I may yet do that (at least for the telecaster). ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3675 "2014-09-10T14:34:47Z")
**Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue with Headphones** Iā€™m assuming it is not a good idea to plug my headphones directly into the external speaker jack. What do I do to be able to use headphones for this amp? ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3676 "2014-09-10T14:48:06Z")
I would recommend that you get a dedicated headphone amp with decent modelling if you want to practice without disturbing anyone. You could use the ext spkr output and an attenuator but it will likely suffer serious tone suck and cost you as much as the headphone amp. Iā€™ve been playing with my sonā€™s Line 6 pod and while it isnā€™t perfect, itā€™s relatively inexpensive and gets the job done. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3677 "2014-10-02T05:00:51Z")
I just bid successfully on a 12-string ā€œtelecasterā€ on EBay. Squeeeee! And I got it way way cheap! Itā€™s a no-name vendor, but I found a [YouTube video demo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYA7tJaAcUU) that sounds good. Iā€™ve always wanted a 12-string, and am a bit acoustic-averse ergonomically, so Iā€™m really excited about this! And, yes, Iā€™m sure intonation will be a challenge. Twelve squeeeeeees! ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3678 "2014-10-02T11:52:51Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > I just bid successfully on a 12-string ā€œtelecasterā€ on EBay. Squeeeee! And I got it way way cheap! > > Itā€™s a no-name vendor, but I found a [YouTube video demo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYA7tJaAcUU) that sounds good. Iā€™ve always wanted a 12-string, and am a bit acoustic-averse ergonomically, so Iā€™m really excited about this! And, yes, Iā€™m sure intonation will be a challenge. > > Twelve squeeeeeees! Happy happy! A Squee for you, **squeegee**!! Good luck and give us a full report! I have never been able to wrap my brain around a 12-string. I bought a nice Martin at one point, played Free Fallinā€™ and some Beatles, and then put it away. I am so lazy about tuning. But then again, I donā€™t use many effects or pretty much anything that deviates from a standard guitar except for dropping into Open G. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3679 "2014-10-02T19:35:42Z")
**Book of guitar "moves"** This is a long-shot, but back around 1991 or so, I bought a book of rock guitar riffs that the author referred to as ā€œmovesā€. I knew a bit about playing guitar and could read tabs, but as I recall, these riffs seemed to make little sense. I couldnā€™t figure them out. They were long and meandering and just seemed downright weird. All I can remember about the book is that it had a black cover with white text,and was your typical 8.5x10 size. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3680 "2014-10-02T19:49:51Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > **Book of guitar ā€œmovesā€** > > This is a long-shot, but back around 1991 or so, I bought a book of rock guitar riffs that the author referred to as ā€œmovesā€. I knew a bit about playing guitar and could read tabs, but as I recall, these riffs seemed to make little sense. I couldnā€™t figure them out. They were long and meandering and just seemed downright weird. All I can remember about the book is that it had a black cover with white text,and was your typical 8.5x10 size. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Might it be [this one](http://www.heavyguitar.com/BeDangerous.html)? This publisher constantly calls riffs ā€œmoves.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3681 "2014-10-02T19:50:33Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > **Book of guitar ā€œmovesā€** > > This is a long-shot, but back around 1991 or so, I bought a book of rock guitar riffs that the author referred to as ā€œmovesā€. I knew a bit about playing guitar and could read tabs, but as I recall, these riffs seemed to make little sense. I couldnā€™t figure them out. They were long and meandering and just seemed downright weird. All I can remember about the book is that it had a black cover with white text,and was your typical 8.5x10 size. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Absolutely no clue - sorry. I have to ask: since you found the ā€œmovesā€ incomprehensible, how come you are looking for it? ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3682 "2014-10-03T02:10:09Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > Might it be [this one](http://www.heavyguitar.com/BeDangerous.html)? This publisher constantly calls riffs ā€œmoves.ā€ Boom! Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2014, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/3683 "2014-10-03T02:11:29Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Absolutely no clue - sorry. I have to ask: since you found the ā€œmovesā€ incomprehensible, how come you are looking for it? To see either how much I didnā€™t know at the time, how much I may have learned in the ensuing 20 some years, or if the guy was a total wacko (genius?). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=183) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=185)