# The Great Ongoing Guitar Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [January 31, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172 "2010-01-31T23:20:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 255
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5084 "2017-11-07T14:31:59Z")
Make that 7.4 lbs. šŸ˜‰ Looked at my email wrong. I had hoped for 7 lbs. But Iā€™m thankful they got it this close. Itā€™ll make a big difference in being able to play safely without injuring my back. I knew a 9 lb bass would NEVER work. No way, no how. I still have to order my GruvGear duo strap. It evenly distributes weight onto both shoulders. [https://goo.gl/images/eNQJ6x](https://goo.gl/images/eNQJ6x) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5085 "2017-11-07T16:25:29Z")
Iā€™ve been listening to a lot of Cannibal Corpse due to their new album coming out and I came across a video I hadnā€™t seen before that I thought some of yā€™all might find fun where [Cannibal Corpse talks about their gear](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzLLt_yA7QM). True thereā€™s a bit in there about drums, but of course guitar and bass stories and gear dominate the 10 minute video. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5086 "2017-11-07T17:12:10Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I think the reason he said ā€œOoh, double-cremeā€ is because DiMarzio has a trademark on double-creme humbuckers. As far as I know, you cannot buy a double-creme SD. You can get double-white, but not double-creme. I would post to another forum that discusses this, but I think that might be against board rules. Just google ā€œdimarzio double-creme trademarkā€. > > Iā€™ve been playing a lot of my new bass lately. I find it to be a lot more physical than guitar. The tips of my index and middle fingers on my picking hand are now always numb so Iā€™m looking forward to when that goes away. Donā€™t be afraid to use a pick. Carol Kaye plays bass with a pick. Sheā€™s the most-recorded bassist in history, with upwards of 10000 sessions. I play both ways. The pick gives my fingers a much need break and it gives a different sound. > **[Carol Kaye on her 10 greatest recordings: "It wasnā€™t like we were making...](https://www.musicradar.com/news/carole-kaye-bass-my-10-greatest-recordings)** > > Classic interview: the most recorded bassist in history on here personal highlights ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5087 "2017-11-07T17:26:17Z")
Aye; I play bass with a pick mostly. I practice both, but I have decades of experience with a guitar pick and Iā€™m usually going for my trademark percussive-heavy sound anyway. But thereā€™s no shame in playing bass with a pick; just ask Chris Squire or Noel Redding or Scott Thunes or Dave Ellefson or Doug Pinnickā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5088 "2017-11-07T20:19:15Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Aye; I play bass with a pick mostly. I practice both, but I have decades of experience with a guitar pick and Iā€™m usually going for my trademark percussive-heavy sound anyway. But thereā€™s no shame in playing bass with a pick; just ask Chris Squire or Noel Redding or Scott Thunes or Dave Ellefson or Doug Pinnickā€¦ > [@aceplace57](#): > > Donā€™t be afraid to use a pick. Carol Kaye plays bass with a pick. Sheā€™s the most-recorded bassist in history, with upwards of 10000 sessions. > > I play both ways. The pick gives my fingers a much need break and it gives a different sound. > [Carol Kaye on her 10 greatest recordings: "It wasnā€™t like we were making doughnuts. We were making records, and a lot of them were hits" | MusicRadar](http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/carol-kaye-my-10-greatest-recordings-of-all-time-508956) I am doing both: Finger picking and using a pick. I love Rocksmith for when I want to goof around and that is primarily how I have been playing the bass. They let you know if it should use a pick or fingers and for the most part thatā€™s how Iā€™ve been learning the songs. There are a couple songs that are too fast for my fingers so Iā€™ve been using a pick (my fingers are getting faster and ā€œsmarterā€). Even picking gets tiresome on a bass compared to guitar. I think you just have to be tougher to play bass. At least tougher than me. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5089 "2017-11-07T20:26:50Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Even picking gets tiresome on a bass compared to guitar. I think you just have to be tougher to play bass. At least tougher than me. šŸ˜ƒ [Song for [del]drummers[/del]bass players](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Mn6V1IzHw). šŸ˜‰ (I keed; I keed!) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5090 "2017-11-07T20:49:25Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Song for [del]drummers[/del]bass players](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Mn6V1IzHw). šŸ˜‰ > (I keed; I keed!) Ha! I think I can perfect that song on the bass AND drums! Even guitar. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5091 "2017-11-07T21:01:23Z")
wguy Iā€™d suggest checking out Scottā€™s Bass Academy. He brings in some incredible bass players to give special classes. Thatā€™s on top of Scottā€™s course. Doesnā€™t matter if youā€™re a beginner or experienced. Any bass player will find material that advances his skills. > **[Online Bass Guitar Lessons | Scott's Bass Lessons](https://scottsbasslessons.com/)** > > Scott's Bass Lessons is the leading online bass guitar community, with a wealth of free online lessons and courses for new and experienced bass players alike. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5092 "2017-11-08T15:10:15Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > wguy Iā€™d suggest checking out Scottā€™s Bass Academy. > > He brings in some incredible bass players to give special classes. Thatā€™s on top of Scottā€™s course. > > Doesnā€™t matter if youā€™re a beginner or experienced. Any bass player will find material that advances his skills. > > [http://www.scottsbasslessons.com](http://www.scottsbasslessons.com) Thanks for the suggestion. I watched a couple videos last night and will definitely be watching more. One question though: Why does he wear gloves? I understand the wrist bands and wear one so my wrist doesnā€™t get sore on the edge of the instrument (I actually started wearing one with my guitar during summer to try and keep my guitar a bit cleaner). ---
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5093 "2017-11-08T15:27:41Z")
Briefly, Scott wears gloves as a treatment for a debilitating case of focal dystonia. He posted a video about it somewhere on YouTube. It seems to have worked; the guyā€™s got skills. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5094 "2017-11-08T15:28:38Z")
Scott has neurological damage that causes hand tremors. He shows (in the video) his bare hand trembling and then it stops when he touches it. The glove puts just enough pressure on his hand to stop the trembling. He can play and teach. I donā€™t think he gigs and does session work regularly anymore. Heā€™s one reason Iā€™m buying a light weight bass. Scott used to use a heavy bass (12 lbs) and gigging required moving around heavy amps and other gear. He said heā€™s switched to a lighter bass. Iā€™ve had back problems much of my life. Iā€™m careful about lifting now. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wOVGrGBeqiI/maxresdefault.jpg "Why I Wear "The Gloves" /// Scott's Bass Lessons") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOVGrGBeqiI) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5095 "2017-11-08T15:49:59Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Briefly, Scott wears gloves as a treatment for a debilitating case of focal dystonia. He posted a video about it somewhere on YouTube. > > It seems to have worked; the guyā€™s got skills. > [@aceplace57](#): > > Scott has neurological damage that causes hand tremors. He shows (in the video) his bare hand trembling and then it stops when he touches it. > > The glove puts just enough pressure on his hand to stop the trembling. He can play and teach. I donā€™t think he gigs and does session work regularly anymore. > > [https://youtu.be/wOVGrGBeqiI](https://youtu.be/wOVGrGBeqiI) I still seem to learn something new every day. Never heard of this problem but it explains the gloves. My bass is heavier than my guitarsā€¦I think itā€™s around 10lbs. However, I nearly always play sitting down so I donā€™t have much concerns about weight. With bad back problems, I would guess weight matters even sitting down. I had a one year long back problem due to an injury and it was pretty bad. Lots of physical therapy to correct it and as long as I continue to hike/walk/bike a lot and keep my lower back strong, I think I should be good. Knock on wood. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5096 "2017-11-13T00:58:59Z")
[Bob Dylanā€™s 1963 Martin D-28 sold for $396,500 on Saturday](https://apnews.com/b10092fe482b46b1ab7b2238f2a2fbf6/Tangled-Up-in-Green:-Dylan-guitar-sells-for-nearly-$400,000). > [@](#): > > The company says Dylan played the guitar through his set at George Harrisonā€™s Concert for Bangladesh in New York City in 1971 and during his Rolling Thunder Revue tour from October 1975 to May 1976. > > The guitar was sold by Larry Cragg, who was Dylanā€™s guitar repairman. The original 1977 purchase receipt, which was included in the offering, shows Cragg bought the guitar from Dylan for $500. > > A Fender Stratocaster Dylan played at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival when he went electric sold for nearly $1 million in 2013. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5097 "2017-11-17T20:35:10Z")
Anyone play with a stomp box? The mechanical ones go back to the early blues players. Acoustic Guitar Magazine reviews three of them. They look like fun and a nice effect playing solo. YouTube offers plans to make your own with some scrap wood, pickup, and jack. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yKEbkbu6P-I/hqdefault.jpg "Acoustic Guitar reviews three rhythm stompboxes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKEbkbu6P-I) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5098 "2017-11-17T21:03:16Z")
I got my garage project for this year. šŸ˜‰ eBay has vintage license plates for under $15. I got the scrap wood and paint. Will have to buy a bass pickup. I think this can be made for $40 - to $60. Couple days of fun making it. Nice box and his guitar demo at the end is impressive. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0BM0WNtJzcs/hqdefault.jpg "DIY - Build Your Own Stomp Box (Foot drum)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BM0WNtJzcs) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5099 "2017-11-17T23:08:52Z")
A parts question. Perhaps a bass pickup similar to this? [https://m.ebay.com/itm/1set-4-String-Noiseless-Pickup-Black-for-Precision-P-Bass-Replacement-New/381863952345?epid=13009471015&hash=item58e8dd7fd9:g:-XAAAOSw8UZZ~BrV](https://m.ebay.com/itm/1set-4-String-Noiseless-Pickup-Black-for-Precision-P-Bass-Replacement-New/381863952345?epid=13009471015&hash=item58e8dd7fd9:g:-XAAAOSw8UZZ~BrV) I need a wiring kit. This one has CTS pots [https://m.ebay.com/itm/TAOT-Wiring-Kit-P-Bass-CTS-250K-Pots-047-uf-NOS-K40Y-9-PIO-Cap/321353330858?hash=item4ad226b0aa:g:f9gAAOSwBLlVag9o](https://m.ebay.com/itm/TAOT-Wiring-Kit-P-Bass-CTS-250K-Pots-047-uf-NOS-K40Y-9-PIO-Cap/321353330858?hash=item4ad226b0aa:g:f9gAAOSwBLlVag9o) Will that work? I already picked out a vintage license plate. It should be good steel the pickups will respond too. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5100 "2017-11-18T11:58:15Z")
No clue about the parts. Never built a stomp box before. Iā€™d just go for it and see what you get. ---
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5101 "2017-11-18T12:59:50Z")
That should work fine, **ace**. The only thing to worry about is the placement of the pickups relative to the plate - either try approximating the typical distance between a bass guitar string and the pickups, or maybe mount them on a height-adjustable wooden block, so that you can fine-tune the output. Let us know how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5102 "2017-11-18T16:22:35Z")
The video I linked didnā€™t give a lot of details. Not even how he wired it. Iā€™m assuming he used a standard P bass wiring kit. They come with a wiring diagram. Iā€™ll keep in mind that the pickups gap under the license plate need tweaking. The metal will flex some and I donā€™t want it hitting the pickup. I also saw comments that rags in the box will give better sound. Itā€™s worth trying. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5103 "2017-11-18T17:03:10Z")
Howdy. My name is Bo, and I have a problem. I watch luthier videos. Lots of luthier videos. I havenā€™t started taking time off from work to watch them yet, but I do sometimes watch them at work. On the upside, I found a video to share with yā€™all: [A guitar made out of clay?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG7bqKe-CRQ) The video is Dan Erlewine and Erick Coleman taking a look at and discussing a ceramic guitar. It was made in the 1960s by a guy with the totally awesome name of Jake Kindlesparker. [He even filed for and was granted a patent](https://www.google.com/patents/US3392221) for the process he developed to be able to make his guitars. I think it sounds amazing, but holy crap would I be afraid to handle it. I was edgy the whole time the one professor was holding it with only one hand. No doubt it would take me some time to feel comfortable with it slung off my shoulders. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=254) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=256)