# The Great Ongoing Guitar Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [January 31, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172 "2010-01-31T23:20:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 263
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5244 "2018-03-03T15:07:03Z")
Yeah, I’m a huge, massive CCR fan. I wore out their vinyl albums and eight tracks in high school. I still have their first 5 albums on my phone. I don’t bother listening to Pendulum or Mardi Gras anymore. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5245 "2018-03-03T15:13:46Z")
He’s quite the choogler ;). Good player; still in fine voice and a solid player. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5246 "2018-03-03T15:31:15Z")
CCR is a lot of fun in a jam session. Great Times ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5247 "2018-03-04T00:21:18Z")
Been playing Love Me Tender all day. I’m finally hearing E7 properly as a lullaby in the song. Took awhile to banish CCR from my head. 😉 For A7 I’m using the mini bar on the 2nd fret and G note on the third fret. So far, I like the voicing better than the A7 with open G string. There’s a couple hard chords in Love Me Tender. I had never played this voicing of Gm6 before. It’s a little tricky. [https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-motorola&biw=412&bih=322&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=KfmTWu6zOu7n\_Qb79YzwAQ&q=gm6+chord&oq=gm6+chord&gs\_l=mobile-gws-img.3..0l5.63762.65987..67268...0....186.854.0j6..........1..mobile-gws-wiz-img.......0i67.VnAooLSooLQ%3D#imgrc=btb\_kjTpEEe06M:](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-motorola&biw=412&bih=322&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=KfmTWu6zOu7n_Qb79YzwAQ&q=gm6+chord&oq=gm6+chord&gs_l=mobile-gws-img.3..0l5.63762.65987..67268...0....186.854.0j6..........1..mobile-gws-wiz-img.......0i67.VnAooLSooLQ%3D#imgrc=btb_kjTpEEe06M:) ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5248 "2018-03-05T23:50:28Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > You ever get a chord so closely associated with a song that’s its ruined for anything else? Yeah, every time I play an Fadd9 on a 12-string with another guitarist playing a Dsus4 and the bass player playing a D I can only think of “Hard Day’s Night” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5249 "2018-03-05T23:52:13Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Yeah, every time I play an Fadd9 on a 12-string with another guitarist playing a Dsus4 and the bass player playing a D I can only think of “Hard Day’s Night” 😉 Nice. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5250 "2018-03-06T00:30:41Z")
Hard Days Night is a great song. I’m encouraged that I recognize some chords in songs. I badly neglected ear training when I was younger and it’s something I struggle with today. Course now, my hearing isn’t what it used to be 30 years ago. I missed the bus on ever having a trained ear. I am improving with guitar and singing. Agreeing to play at a friend’s wedding (in May) is a big step for me. Working hard, practicing three times a day. So I won’t make a fool of myself. The two songs I’m doing aren’t too difficult. Love Me Tender only uses guitar accompaniment. I gotta get that right. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5251 "2018-03-06T07:10:15Z")
At long last I have finished setup on my Strat I’m I’m pretty happy with the results. I wound up backing up the truss rod about a third of a turn, didn’t have to adjust the action at all, and tweaked the intonation on the low E about a half turn of the screw, then put some .010s on it, up from the .009s I have been using. Definitely a little chunkier sound now, which makes me happy! Next I turn my attention to my Frankenstrat knock-off to go through the whole process again, but with .009 Cobalt strings to see how that changes the sound between the two guitars. Looking forward to the process! 🙂 Haven’t tried Hard Day’s Night, but I do enjoy playing Something, which is so simple and elegant, while also having some interesting and subtle chord progressions. I’m learning that Beatles songs are more complex than they seen on the surface! ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5252 "2018-03-06T09:49:21Z")
Nice job Jimbo! ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5253 "2018-03-06T20:03:33Z")
> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#): > > Haven’t tried Hard Day’s Night, but I do enjoy playing Something, which is so simple and elegant, while also having some interesting and subtle chord progressions. I’m learning that Beatles songs are more complex than they seen on the surface! Those guys were amazing songwriters, and doing much more interesting things than other rock writers at the same time. Quite impressive for guys with no formal musical training (I believe Paul later in his career was conducting orchestra music but can’t read). I don’t think they necessarily originated the harmonic ideas, because pop songwriters had been doing some of those things for decades, but they adapted it to rock and brought it to a new audience. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5254 "2018-03-08T03:15:15Z")
Watching American Restoration and Rick’s wife buys her son a 66 Mosrite. Rick restores the paint. Looking on Reverb, some sell for over 3k. Others 1200 to 2k. > **[Mosrite The Ventures Model Circa 60's w/ohsc (used) | Reverb](https://reverb.com/item/10171169-mosrite-the-ventures-model-circa-60-s-w-ohsc-used)** > > Mosrite The Ventures Model Circa 60's w/ohsc (used)s/n stamped on neck is 0762, which I think puts it at 64-65 eraThis guitar has been refinished in 1970's, original owner painted all his stage guitars the same color.It has checking and scrapes and... > **[Mosrite Celebrity III Mark X Sunburst 1967 | Reverb](https://reverb.com/p/mosrite-celebrity-iii-mark-x-sunburst-1967?ended_listing=10602701)** > > Part of the semi-hollow Celebrity series, this bass features a 30 1/4" scale length, a Maple body and a Rosewood fretboard.Years of Production: 1965 - 1969 What makes them so collectable? Unique sound? Great player? I haven’t heard of them before. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5255 "2018-03-08T10:18:10Z")
\*\*The Ventures \*\*played Mosrites, as did, most famously, **Johnny Ramone** of The Ramones. Semie Mosley was known for taking Fender shapes and flipping the over. Refinished guitars lose 50% of their value. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5256 "2018-03-08T14:57:34Z")
I thought I recalled that mosrites were made with particleboard bodies. Or perhaps those were Danelectros ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5257 "2018-03-08T15:21:10Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Or perhaps those were Danelectros Yes. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5258 "2018-03-09T05:53:14Z")
Nope. Danelectros are (generally) poplar frames covered with masonite. Masonite has similarities with particle board, but the particles are much more small, and the medium is much more dense. Either way, to describe them as particle board is Fox News levels of misleading. Mosrites, in the words of Johnny Ramone: “Mosrites are not made out of wood. They are made of very good cardboard.” Either one puts a lie to the idea of “tone wood”, but that’s a much more involved discussion. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5259 "2018-03-09T10:16:32Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > Nope. > > Danelectros are (generally) poplar frames covered with masonite. Masonite has similarities with particle board, but the particles are much more small, and the medium is much more dense. Either way, to describe them as particle board is Fox News levels of misleading. > > Mosrites, in the words of Johnny Ramone: “Mosrites are not made out of wood. They are made of very good cardboard.” > > Either one puts a lie to the idea of “tone wood”, but that’s a much more involved discussion. Better answer. Thanks. As for tone woods, any material that dampens the right, bad frequencies and feeds the good ones into the amp is okay by me. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5260 "2018-03-10T13:46:24Z")
Ah, so my first instinct was right. I didn’t think the mosrite looked like a quality instrument. I was very surprised at the prices for vintage ones. I understand now why the vintage survivors are rare and valuable. It’s like Silvertone. People that learned to play on a guitar from Sears have very strong affection for them. All the memories of childhood and playing their first gigs. That’s cool if you have that association with the instrument. I will always love Yamaha acoustics because that’s what I learned to play in high school. I’ve bought a couple vintage ones from eBay. Models I couldn’t have afforded in 1977. It frustrates me that I can’t remember the exact model I had. I only remember it was advertised as a jumbo body and had a pickup. There’s several jumbos that were made in the mid seventies. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5261 "2018-03-10T14:10:32Z")
Norman Guitars demos a Mosrite. This one is older, has a vibramute tailpiece, and more valuable than the one featured on American Restoration. It had a mosley tailpiece. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-ZT2Wnf7BHM/maxresdefault.jpg "1965 Mosrite Ventures Model | Guitar of the Day") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZT2Wnf7BHM) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5262 "2018-03-12T16:25:57Z")
Anyone bidding? 😉 Some incredible music was made on this guitar. > **[Stevie Ray Vaughan’s 1951 ‘Jimbo’ Nocaster sells for $250,000](https://www.musicradar.com/news/stevie-ray-vaughans-1951-jimbo-nocaster-is-going-under-the-hammer)** > > Blues legend’s formative Fender electric guitar sold at auction > [@](#): > > A 1951 Fender Nocaster is a very rare thing indeed, but a Stevie Ray Vaughan-owned Nocaster is something else, and this particular guitar - affectionately known as ‘Jimbo’ - is going under the hammer next month at Dallas’s Heritage Auctions. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5263 "2018-03-12T16:31:20Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Anyone bidding? 😉 > > Some incredible music was made on this guitar. > [Stevie Ray Vaughan’s 1951 ‘Jimbo’ Nocaster sells for $250,000 | MusicRadar](https://www.musicradar.com/news/stevie-ray-vaughans-1951-jimbo-nocaster-is-going-under-the-hammer) Oh shit, Jimmie Vaughn doesn’t have control of Jimbo?! I didn’t realize that but yeah, read about it in various SRV books I’ve read. A Broadcaster would be a $50-$75K guitar on a good day and more on other days. One owned by Stevie and Jimi would go for a lot more than $200K, I hope. Man, if that was a Strat, I wouldn’t want to guess, simply because of SRV’s identification with Strats. I would _much_ rather have the Broadcaster. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=262) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=264)