# The Great Ongoing Guitar Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [January 31, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172 "2010-01-31T23:20:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 283
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5646 "2021-08-09T21:03:35Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Thanks! I agree. It came with those amber top hat knobs but I didn’t like the jarring color contrast so well so I replaced them with those black speeds that have abalone inlay that better matches the colors. Heheeh, I actually like the amber witch hats better. The black ones seem too subdued. I really like the transparent blue/purple on both the tele and the paul. Though, every time I get close to buying a guitar with one of those kinds of finishes, I “go nahhh, too flashy for this fat man” and get something else. I’ve got a bass and guitar that are both boat paint levels of purple sparkle, but a sexy transparent flamed burst is just too fancy for me to pull off, I think. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5647 "2021-08-10T16:30:56Z")
LOL, well, it’s far too fancy for this bedroom player and his audience of one too, along with everything else I own. I just wanted quality instruments and I think I have achieved that. The finish is amazing and hopefully these newer ones don’t turn green over time! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5648 "2021-08-10T17:51:42Z")
So I went from trying to play shit like this (this is 2013): [https://www.dropbox.com/s/9jwyblpg2j1xo3c/Metal3.wav?dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/s/9jwyblpg2j1xo3c/Metal3.wav?dl=0) To something like this from last night (and I am still learning and making mistakes): > **[Dropbox - File Deleted](https://www.dropbox.com/s/txzhdfhlvqj9000/new%20acoustic.url?dl=0%5Bhttps:%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Ftxzhdfhlvqj9000%2Fnew%20acoustic.url?dl=0%5D%28https:%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Ftxzhdfhlvqj9000%2Fnew%20acoustic.url?dl=0%29)** > > Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again! ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5649 "2021-08-17T04:25:52Z")
I went to a backyard party, where these two local guys were playing out. Holy crap could they play. Short excerpt, wait for the cut time section (double time? I mix these terms up. It starts going twice as fast, so to speak) at 42s. EDIT: the embedded player below doesn’t seem to work, if so try this [link.](https://www.dropbox.com/s/vcz1zb8d3wtghzt/TheQuitters.mp4?dl=0) [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/vcz1zb8d3wtghzt/TheQuitters.mp4?dl=0](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/vcz1zb8d3wtghzt/TheQuitters.mp4?dl=0) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5650 "2021-08-17T14:06:29Z")
Very nice! Really like that acoustic ditty. And, I thought your 2013 metal recording wasn’t too bad either 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5651 "2021-08-17T15:24:46Z")
Hey thanks! I try. I just need a band to play with and a spot to jam. Having even a 20w tube amp through two 12" V-30’s can be way in excess of apartment-friendly volumes, lol. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5652 "2021-08-17T15:40:53Z")
I have a 15W with one 12" and it can shake my house. Luckily, I have a basement that is fairly good at containing it. And yes, getting others to play with is the best way to improve. My last round of guys all moved and I’m without again. Maybe this winter I’ll put some feelers out. I play a lot more during the dark months… ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5653 "2021-08-17T18:44:22Z")
I feel that. My little Champ tweed 5-watter is gnarly and you simply MUST learn the art of precise volume rolloffs, which I have not done with that amp. Heck, even the two little Orange Micro terrors are 20w partial tube amps and if I hook that thing up to my 12" Orange cab it’s SUPER loud if you crank the gain. I’ve been slowly but surely just receding into myself and playing more spare stuff on my acoustic. I need real practice reps with rhythm playing. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5654 "2021-08-29T21:26:38Z")
My Squier Bullet Strat is an HSS and I really like the versatility it gives me. Surprisingly good guitar for the money. ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5655 "2021-08-30T18:52:46Z")
Came across a video last night of Zeppelin playing **The Ocean** at Madison Square Garden in 1973. It must be from the 2007 reissue of the film. The ending of that song has a very cool bit of guitar. Here it is in the studio recording at 3:33, 3:56 and 4:18: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/H8bVaTW6UCU/maxresdefault.jpg "The Ocean (Remaster)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8bVaTW6UCU) And here’s Page playing it in the video. Notice the left-hand position: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/mqgyD_yTWCU/maxresdefault.jpg "Led Zeppelin - The Ocean (Live at Madison Square Garden 1973)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgyD_yTWCU) Surprised the hell out of me, because I always assumed it was several guitars. As it turns out, the open bass strings are what make it sound _so good_. This appears to be the only tutorial to get it (mostly) right: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LsdUp1gdq3w/maxresdefault.jpg "The Ocean Guitar Lesson - Led Zeppelin - Outro Solo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsdUp1gdq3w) ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5656 "2021-08-31T02:40:49Z")
This truly is the Golden Age of guitars. The variety and quality no matter whether it’s acoustic or electric is nothing short of incredible. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5657 "2021-08-31T14:02:31Z")
I agree. My Squier Classic Vibe Tele is fantastic and was relatively inexpensive. It was made in China. My made in Indonesia bass is also very nice. Manufacturing has improved so much. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5658 "2021-08-31T14:17:58Z")
> [@alovem](#): > > Came across a video last night of Zeppelin playing **The Ocean** at Madison Square Garden in 1973. It must be from the 2007 reissue of the film. > > The ending of that song has a very cool bit of guitar. Here it is in the studio recording at 3:33, 3:56 and 4:18: > > And here’s Page playing it in the video. Notice the left-hand position: > > Surprised the hell out of me, because I always assumed it was several guitars. As it turns out, the open bass strings are what make it sound _so good_ There was definitely multiple guitars in the studio, Page just came up with a very cool way to play it live. He did some absolutely brilliant rearrangements of studio albums live for one guitar; that stuff is all over the live Song Remains the Same performance. Insanely cool work. ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5659 "2021-08-31T16:03:51Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > There was definitely multiple guitars in the studio, I could have worded my post more clearly. > [@squeegee](#): > > Page just came up with a very cool way to play it live. I agree there are multiple guitars in the studio version, but the thing I pointed out in the live version is also in the studio version. It’s just at a much lower volume under the melody part, which he plays as single notes. When I said I assumed it was several guitars, I was referring to the entire “rhythm” part, as the guy in the tutorial video calls it. I thought he was doing _that_ with several guitars. > [@squeegee](#): > > He did some absolutely brilliant rearrangements of studio albums live for one guitar Yes, brilliant. Another thing I noticed the other night is that, although his playing is usually associated with fast solos (and rightly so), there are plenty of tracks in which he focuses on tone and other aspects of the guitar. Down by the Seaside is pretty and lilting, and his guitar work there is like a homage to simpler times. That’s just one example; there are many more. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5660 "2021-09-15T07:13:39Z")
I just ordered one! White and black. On another site I saw a guy playing one side by side with a 63 Tele. I couldn’t tell the difference. Can’t wait for Friday, I’m going to learn some Merle Haggard before it comes. Working Man Blues. Maybe some Springsteen > **[Squier Classic Vibe '50s Telecaster Maple Fingerboard Electric Guitar](https://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier/Classic-Vibe-50s-Telecaster-Maple-Fingerboard-Electric-Guitar-White-Blonde-1500000280822.gc)** > > Shop for the Squier Classic Vibe '50s Telecaster Maple Fingerboard Electric Guitar and receive free shipping on your order and the guaranteed lowest price. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5661 "2021-09-15T14:00:32Z")
Nice! I have three electrics and this is the only one I ever play. My other two are not what I would call daily players and I just hold on to them since I’ve had them forever. The Hondo flying V I bought over 30 years ago at 18 was great for playing standing up, but I sit all the time now and it’s not great there. My old Harmony sounds awesome, but it has such a round neck bends pinch out at anything over a half tone. They both look good hanging on the wall though 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5662 "2021-09-15T16:09:08Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > My old Harmony sounds awesome, but it has such a round neck bends pinch out at anything over a half tone. They both look good hanging on the wall though 🙂 Take it to a luthier to level the frets and tell them about your issue. I have a cheap '80s Tokai Strat that had that problem and, as I understand it, the luthier put a larger radius just on the frets–not on the fingerboard and it’s infinitely better. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5663 "2021-09-15T16:11:49Z")
I didn’t know they could do that! Thanks for the suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5664 "2021-09-17T23:20:24Z")
Just got it about an hour ago, but it will be going back. Good guitar but it doesn’t sound much different from my Special Edition Tele with humbuckers. With the coil tap pulled out on that one, with a country setting on the amp, if anything it has even more twang So now I am thinking of getting a semi-hollow body. Any recommendations in the $500 range? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/5665 "2021-09-18T03:06:53Z")
> [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > So now I am thinking of getting a semi-hollow body. Any recommendations in the $500 range? Well, since you like Teles: [https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TeleCV60TLN--squier-classic-vibe-60s-telecaster-thinline-natural](https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TeleCV60TLN--squier-classic-vibe-60s-telecaster-thinline-natural) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=282) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=284)