# The Great Ongoing Guitar Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [January 31, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172 "2010-01-31T23:20:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/901 "2010-10-20T10:17:20Z")
> **[Fender G-Dec junior problem](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=582474)** > > I decided to save some money and bought this used but supposedly like new amp on Ebay. Had it shipped to me in México and it arrived today. I plugged it in today at 6:30 and played around with the different features. It seemed pretty cool. I... CBEscapee has a problem with his new amp. I’m not sure. I’m wondering if he leaves it unplugged for three-four hours, maybe it’ll work again. Hope it’s not a blown capacitor. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/902 "2010-10-21T13:14:21Z")
See [October 19 cartoon here](http://est.rbma.com/content/Zits?date=20101019). ETA: Just one. Kid. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/903 "2010-10-21T13:18:40Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > See [October 19 cartoon here](http://est.rbma.com/content/Zits?date=20101019). > > ETA: Just one. Kid. Hmm - link doesn’t work. Hard to search on “comics zits gas” in Google, too…😉 ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/904 "2010-10-21T13:51:12Z")
Try this. > **[Zits](https://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/zits/)** > > Zits Tuesday, August 22, 2023 What’s that, bout a grand of guitar? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/905 "2010-10-21T13:53:54Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Try this. > [Zits | Comics | ArcaMax Publishing](http://www.arcamax.com/zits/s-787706-317127) > What’s that, bout a grand of guitar? That’s hilariously specific for a non-geek comic strip. And yeah, that’s about right - pricey enough. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/906 "2010-10-21T22:07:25Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Try this. > [Zits | Comics | ArcaMax Publishing](http://www.arcamax.com/zits/s-787706-317127) > What’s that, bout a grand of guitar? Thanks. The link I provided apparently is only authorized if you are linking through the Washington Post site. Yes, hilariously specific for a general audience comic! My second guitar was an SG Special, around 1972. Fixed intonation bridge, though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/907 "2010-10-30T15:28:36Z")
[Davidm](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=583657) has questions about buying a guitar. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/908 "2010-11-02T03:35:16Z")
Just re-found my old acoustic. It’s been in… storage. Let’s call it storage… for a number of years. It’s made by Tranquillo Giannini, and it’s labeled as a Giannini serie estudio. Got a stamp in it, 1 AWNE 19. 19 fret, rosewood neck. It’s well made, but sloppy glue is visible. Student series seems about right. It sounds good, even with busted old strings. I’d guess it dates to somewhere around 1980. Anyone know anything about it? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/909 "2010-11-02T03:45:36Z")
[newcrasher](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=583951) is looking for acoustic guitar songs he might like to learn. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/910 "2010-11-02T04:00:05Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Just re-found my old acoustic. It’s been in… storage. Let’s call it storage… for a number of years. It’s made by Tranquillo Giannini, and it’s labeled as a Giannini serie estudio. > > Got a stamp in it, 1 AWNE 19. > > 19 fret, rosewood neck. It’s well made, but sloppy glue is visible. Student series seems about right. It sounds good, even with busted old strings. I’d guess it dates to somewhere around 1980. Anyone know anything about it? Well I found their web site [here](http://www.giannini.com.br/eng/home.asp), but you probably already found that. If you go to the Downloads section, [here](http://www.giannini.com.br/eng/catalogos.asp?cat=20), they have product catalogs that go back to the 70’s. Sadly I haven’t found one with acoustics of 1980ish; there’s a number that look likely, but I get electric guitars brochures, or amps, or the PDF is corrupted and won’t open (that last may be their ISP being unreliable, so try again later). Are you sure about the “AWNE” stamp? One of thier [product pages](http://www.giannini.com.br/eng/inst_study.asp) show **G** WNE models, but they only go up to GWNE 18 currently, no 19. Is that “A” maybe a “G”? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/911 "2010-11-02T10:24:11Z")
Oh, no, it’s one hundred percent an AWNE. I’ve found other people with one on the internet, mostly asking about it. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/912 "2010-11-02T12:47:13Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Just re-found my old acoustic. It’s been in… storage. Let’s call it storage… for a number of years. It’s made by Tranquillo Giannini, and it’s labeled as a Giannini serie estudio. > > Got a stamp in it, 1 AWNE 19. > > 19 fret, rosewood neck. It’s well made, but sloppy glue is visible. Student series seems about right. It sounds good, even with busted old strings. I’d guess it dates to somewhere around 1980. Anyone know anything about it? No clue. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/913 "2010-11-03T16:08:02Z")
[An amusing clip about GAS](http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6560363/), created by Jeff Bamburg. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/914 "2010-11-03T21:03:26Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > [An amusing clip about GAS](http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6560363/), created by Jeff Bamburg. Gotta love online stuff for geek-specific humor. “I need a fan-fret guitar” - like even most guitar players know what a fan-fret is 😉 [Here’s a photo](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Combustion_Natural_files/Nattwin.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Combustion_Natural.html&usg=__kIJ6UhJdeyQ0eoL2H96HTs01R3c=&h=709&w=1200&sz=769&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=NdE0twAgR5tH3M:&tbnh=111&tbnw=188&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfan%2Bfret%2Bguitar%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1T4GGLL_enUS388US389%26biw%3D989%26bih%3D796%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=417&ei=Y83RTIzvD9aznAeAjJ17&oei=Y83RTIzvD9aznAeAjJ17&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0&tx=110&ty=48) of a fan fret bass - notice the frets are closer for the lightest strings and farther apart for the heavier-gauge strings. That is supposed to account for a POV that different tone ranges sound best on a certain fret-board scale length. So some geek (in a good way) designed a fan-fret, compound-scale design. Lots of folks experiment with them - especially tappers and proggish-avant music players… ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/915 "2010-11-04T00:20:24Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > [An amusing clip about GAS](http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6560363/), created by Jeff Bamburg. I like the punchline. Reminds me of the old joke: Q: What’s the difference between a musician and a pizza? A: A pizza can feed a family of four. > [@WordMan](#): > > [Here’s a photo](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Combustion_Natural_files/Nattwin.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Combustion_Natural.html&usg=__kIJ6UhJdeyQ0eoL2H96HTs01R3c=&h=709&w=1200&sz=769&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=NdE0twAgR5tH3M:&tbnh=111&tbnw=188&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfan%2Bfret%2Bguitar%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1T4GGLL_enUS388US389%26biw%3D989%26bih%3D796%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=417&ei=Y83RTIzvD9aznAeAjJ17&oei=Y83RTIzvD9aznAeAjJ17&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0&tx=110&ty=48) of a fan fret bass Wow, that bass looks like an Escher drawing. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/916 "2010-11-04T02:18:51Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > [An amusing clip about GAS](http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6560363/), created by Jeff Bamburg. That’s hilarious. “Learn to play guitar and make hundreds of dollars a year.” :D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/917 "2010-11-04T11:44:48Z")
Guitarfetish is having a sale on their blem guitars. Code is blem15. [http://www.guitarfetish.com/Jays-CRAZY-Blem-Xaviere-CLEARANCE-SALE\_c\_185.html](http://www.guitarfetish.com/Jays-CRAZY-Blem-Xaviere-CLEARANCE-SALE_c_185.html) They even have the 500 I want, and that ‘KEEF’ model 825 looks so good. But I’ve got to buy the Rock Band Mustang, because where I need practice is speed, and this should be exponentially better than a metronome. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/918 "2010-11-04T11:49:58Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Guitarfetish is having a sale on their blem guitars. Code is blem15. > [Discounted Clearance Guitars](http://www.guitarfetish.com/Jays-CRAZY-Blem-Xaviere-CLEARANCE-SALE_c_185.html) > > They even have the 500 I want, and that ‘KEEF’ model 825 looks so good. But I’ve got to buy the Rock Band Mustang, because where I need practice is speed, and this should be exponentially better than a metronome. Good lord - those prices are ridiculously low, but I have _no_ idea how to assess their build quality. If I could afford for the experiment to fail, I might take a chance on a fun configuration I might not try otherwise - like a Jazzmaster body or the hollow-body with P-90’s. I would NOT be interested in trying to get one of these in a classic design - e.g., Strat, Tele, LP, etc. - I know them too well and the quality differences would standout too much to me - not to mention that for a “foundation” guitar you should reach for as much quality as you can. But to try something different? Why not? As for the Rock Band guitar - I’ve read about it. It sounds like it has a possibility to be a true ramp up to actual guitar playing. I will be interested in hearing your impressions… ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/919 "2010-11-04T15:11:54Z")
Build quality is _excellent_, and the hardware is damn good. And the pickups are outstanding. Same place I got my XV-585 from. (The odd red chambered not-a-Les Paul) The BLEM15 code will save you fifteen percent off that price. Do buy a hard case, though, for shipping. Seriously. Go crazy. PULL THE TRIGGER! (Pull it! Pull it! Shoot to kill!) (Er, sorry, was listening to AC/DC on the way in to work today.) ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/920 "2010-11-04T17:57:40Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Seriously. Go crazy. PULL THE TRIGGER! (Pull it! Pull it! Shoot to kill!) (Er, sorry, was listening to AC/DC on the way in to work today.) Wow. I’d totally get one if I didn’t already have five electrics, three of which I actually play. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=47)