# The Great Ongoing Guitar Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [January 31, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172 "2010-01-31T23:20:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 89
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1762 "2011-06-28T14:44:26Z")
I’ve heard of it. Don’t see why it wouldn’t work just fine. I’ve also heard of people using nicely scented gun oil to oil the neck with. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1763 "2011-06-28T20:56:47Z")
You guys ever hear of using spray-on shielding (like [this](http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/841.html)) to shield a guitars innards? My sons guitar teacher mentioned it to me yesterday, and I was surprised that there was such a thing. Is it worth using? Does it work well? ETA: nice practice space, Quasi. Thanks for sharing. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1764 "2011-06-28T20:58:11Z")
No clue about car polish on the outside of a guitar, spray on shielding on the inside of a guitar - or spraying car polish on the inside for that matter 😉 ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1765 "2011-06-28T21:19:46Z")
I suppose a guitar covered in spray-on shielding could look interesting. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1766 "2011-06-28T21:25:14Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > I suppose a guitar covered in spray-on shielding could look interesting. Only after you polish it with car wax. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1767 "2011-06-28T21:32:47Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Only after you polish it with car wax. I bet that would cost at least a paraffins. Since we’re being silly, here’s another question – has anyone ever made a “buckier” humbucker by using more than two coils? I bet a six coil humbucker would look badass. And require a woodworking shop to install, but whatever. If you had one on a guitar, you could pick up all of the interesting weirdo harmonics discussed earlier that can normally only be heard on an acoustic. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1768 "2011-06-28T21:35:05Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > I bet that would cost at least a paraffins. > Since we’re being silly, here’s another question – has anyone ever made a “buckier” humbucker by using more than two coils? I bet a six coil humbucker would look badass. And require a woodworking shop to install, but whatever. If you had one on a guitar, you could pick up all of the interesting weirdo harmonics discussed earlier that can normally only be heard on an acoustic. Nah - [never happened](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://zurlocker.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452e46469e2010536a3eaad970b-400wi&imgrefurl=http://www.guitarvibe.com/2009/01/index.html&usg=__Gb98FvQ8xddcLADcgYDnxrV5Jok=&h=160&w=400&sz=10&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=dLlr9AcTz4PW3M:&tbnh=75&tbnw=188&ei=pkgKTpfHGJKcgQfIn-SHAg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnigel%2Btufnel%2Bsuper%2Bpickup%2Bguitar%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4GGLL_enUS388US389%26biw%3D994%26bih%3D797%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=113&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=91&ty=32). (a guitar Nigel Tufnel of Spinal Tap has been photographed with…) 😉 Better pic [here](http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/entertainment/the_weirdest_guitars_in_rock_and_roll.html)- scroll down a bit… ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1769 "2011-06-28T21:57:13Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Nah - [never happened](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://zurlocker.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452e46469e2010536a3eaad970b-400wi&imgrefurl=http://www.guitarvibe.com/2009/01/index.html&usg=__Gb98FvQ8xddcLADcgYDnxrV5Jok=&h=160&w=400&sz=10&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=dLlr9AcTz4PW3M:&tbnh=75&tbnw=188&ei=pkgKTpfHGJKcgQfIn-SHAg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnigel%2Btufnel%2Bsuper%2Bpickup%2Bguitar%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4GGLL_enUS388US389%26biw%3D994%26bih%3D797%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=113&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=91&ty=32). (a guitar Nigel Tufnel of Spinal Tap has been photographed with…) 😉 > > Better pic [here](http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/entertainment/the_weirdest_guitars_in_rock_and_roll.html)- scroll down a bit… Wow, that looks as stupidly awesome as I expected. Love the chrome tailpipe and gas gauge. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Clanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Small\_Clanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Clanger)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1770 "2011-06-29T10:20:52Z")
[QUOTE=squeegee] Wow, that looks as stupidly awesome as I expected. Love the chrome tailpipe and gas gauge. [/QUOTE] If you think that’s silly,[have a look at these](http://brianeastwoodguitars.co.uk/bender.html). ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1771 "2011-06-29T11:29:07Z")
> [@Small\_Clanger](#): > > If you think that’s silly,[have a look at these](http://brianeastwoodguitars.co.uk/bender.html). Looks like someone was a Salvador Dali fanboy. From a business model perspective, I would wonder how to size the market for this guitar…😉 ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1772 "2011-06-29T13:11:43Z")
There are quite a few 3-coil 'buckers, they’ve been around since the 70s. [Ibanez](http://www.ibanezregister.com/Gallery/iceman/gal-ic210.htm) used them as standard on a few guitars. [Hamer](http://www.hamerfanclub.com/proto.html), too, though it’s actually 2+1 according to that page. Oh, and **quadruple**'buckers? [Yep](http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/brands/kent-armstrong-pickups/kent-armstrong/motherbucker-guitar-pickup/). ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1773 "2011-06-29T13:35:09Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > There are quite a few 3-coil 'buckers, they’ve been around since the 70s. > > [Ibanez](http://www.ibanezregister.com/Gallery/iceman/gal-ic210.htm) used them as standard on a few guitars. > > [Hamer](http://www.hamerfanclub.com/proto.html), too, though it’s actually 2+1 according to that page. > > Oh, and **quadruple**'buckers? [Yep](http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/brands/kent-armstrong-pickups/kent-armstrong/motherbucker-guitar-pickup/). We all need to step back and acknowledge the dangers of over’bucking. I don’t really like to talk about it…just please…be careful. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1774 "2011-06-30T01:44:32Z")
> [@Small\_Clanger](#): > > If you think that’s silly,[have a look at these](http://brianeastwoodguitars.co.uk/bender.html). Did Dr. Seuss play the guitar? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1775 "2011-06-30T05:24:06Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > There are quite a few 3-coil 'buckers, they’ve been around since the 70s. > > [Ibanez](http://www.ibanezregister.com/Gallery/iceman/gal-ic210.htm) used them as standard on a few guitars. > > [Hamer](http://www.hamerfanclub.com/proto.html), too, though it’s actually 2+1 according to that page. > > Oh, and **quadruple**'buckers? [Yep](http://www.mansons.co.uk/shopping/brands/kent-armstrong-pickups/kent-armstrong/motherbucker-guitar-pickup/). Thanks, I guess the hummier bucker is well plowed territory. Ignorance fought. Warning, FWIW, MS Security Essentials got grumpy after I clicked one of those three links and I had to clean something. I’m not sure which link. It could also have been a click on the Dr Suess guitars above. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Clanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Small\_Clanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Clanger)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1776 "2011-06-30T09:25:45Z")
[QUOTE=squeegee] Warning, FWIW, MS Security Essentials got grumpy after I clicked one of those three links and I had to clean something. I’m not sure which link. It could also have been a click on the Dr Suess guitars above. [/QUOTE] It’s the Ibanez/Iceman link, I get a big scary malware warning. Seems safe to look at the Cat in the Hat’s Jellycaster. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1777 "2011-06-30T10:49:21Z")
> [@Small\_Clanger](#): > > It’s the Ibanez/Iceman link, I get a big scary malware warning. Seems safe to look at the Cat in the Hat’s Jellycaster. Sorry, nothing like that happened to me, but I use Firefox with [NoScript](http://noscript.net/) enabled as default, _and_ I’m on Linux, so malware doesn’t exist for me. ETA: Neither do popups, or (thanks to [AdBlock](http://adblockplus.org/en/)), ads. I don’t know how you guys can even use the internet without blocking out all the invasive crap. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1778 "2011-07-15T03:43:11Z")
Still practicing, still playing, still can’t change chords fast enough. Need more practice. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1779 "2011-07-15T05:24:37Z")
I think I’ve got all the [pieces](http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn66/squeegee64/IMG_0033.jpg) to rewire my “Xavie e” Les Paul Special clone, and I’m hoping to find time this weekend. I need to pull three wires from the control well at one end of the guitar body to the switch on the upper bout at the other end, and the wire path looks to be weird; if I pop off the pickguard, there’s actually a spot underneath where the wires surface from the body momentarily on the way there, which looks pretty hacky, and I’m hoping this won’t present too much difficulty. I’m also unsure if the bridge is getting grounded from the control well; there’s a wire there that I think does the trick, but I need to pull out my ohm meter from wherever I’ve lost it to be sure One odd thing – I tried ordering vintage-style caps from AllParts and got back-ordered, so I got some ($18! each!) paper-and-oil caps from RS Guitarworks, and the damned things are huge, nearly as big as the last joint [on my index finger](http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn66/squeegee64/IMG_0034.jpg). Compare these caps to the size of the pots in the first photo link I posted above. They’re like something you’d see in a 40’s Ham radio. They’ll fit in my control well, but it’ll be a squeeze. Does this look right? I really, really like playing this guitar (more than my AD Tele, on some days for some things), so I’m hoping I can pull off this rewire without too much trouble and go back to playing it. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1780 "2011-07-15T10:04:22Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Compare these caps to the size of the pots in the first photo link I posted above. They’re like something you’d see in a 40’s Ham radio. They’ll fit in my control well, but it’ll be a squeeze. Does this look right? Yes, that’s right, that’s how big they are. Obsolete technology. Good luck with the rewire, in my experience a wire that looks like it goes to the bridge generally _does_ go there. There’s no other reason for a wire to go in that direction. With threading the wires through the guitar, it’s best if you don’t trim the ends first. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172/1781 "2011-07-15T16:27:25Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > Yes, that’s right, that’s how big they are. Obsolete technology. Good luck with the rewire, in my experience a wire that looks like it goes to the bridge generally _does_ go there. There’s no other reason for a wire to go in that direction. Right, and I’m sure it reaches some area near the bridge or tailpiece; I just want to make sure they actually attached it in some non-flaky way. The electronics on this guitar were wired very mickey-mouse, so I’m checking everything. Although this check is easy: measure the resistance from ground (or at least from that wire in the control well) to the strings. > [@](#): > > With threading the wires through the guitar, it’s best if you don’t trim the ends first. Good point. I bet that braid can be a pain trying to pull it through right areas. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=88) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-guitar-thread/527172.md?page=90)