# The Great Ongoing Revolving Speakership of the 118th Congress {Mike Johnson is new speaker as of 2023-10-25}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 12, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432 "2023-10-12T02:05:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1121 "2023-10-24T20:37:37Z")

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It might be wise at this point for Jeffries and other top Democrats to invite a group of Republican House members over tonight for a nice dinner and glass of Scotch to discuss ways forward out of this shit-show.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1122 "2023-10-24T20:37:44Z")

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Sure looks like I said, the hardcore loons have decided it’s going to be one of them or it’s going to be nobody and it’s the mainstream majority that has to bow down.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1123 "2023-10-24T20:43:30Z")

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Maybe they should go ahead and install Gaetz and then use the motion to vacate to remove him ten minutes later.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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Eventually Republicans will have no one left to vote for but Jeffries. What kind of shape the world will be in by that day, I shudder to imagine.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1125 "2023-10-24T20:48:16Z")

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Remind me again which political side was all about purity tests?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1126 "2023-10-24T20:56:40Z")

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It’s nuts that so few of them get to dictate to the vast majority of them. I now fully expect MGT or Boebert to wind up on top. It seems like they’re gambling that the sane group will give at some point and that may be the smart bet. It’s like “we are 8 out of 435, therefore we get our way or else!”

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1127 "2023-10-24T20:59:06Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Maybe they should go ahead and install Gaetz and then use the motion to vacate to remove him ten minutes later…

No way. Then he’d get the Speaker Emeritus’ office.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1128 "2023-10-24T20:59:09Z")

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A friend of mine texted:

“It’s just disgusting to me the lack of backbone of these members. Trump calls him a rino and boom he quits.”

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**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1129 "2023-10-24T21:00:48Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> ETA: and he’s officially dropped his bid.

I guess i can give him props for not dragging it out, forcing embarrassing for votes, or promising the moon in order to get people to vote for him…

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1130 "2023-10-24T21:02:17Z")

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“The GOP is a failed state. Donald Trump is its warlord.”

Hat tip to [Will Saletan](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/01/the-gop-is-a-failed-state-donald-trump-is-its-warlord.html).

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1131 "2023-10-24T21:02:49Z")

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Also (again):

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9O5jXBawAA-jLy?format=png&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9O5jXBawAA-jLy?format=png&name=small)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1132 "2023-10-24T21:06:19Z")

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GOP Rep. Lance Gooden:

> “It’s a huge setback,” he said, “but we’ve become so accustomed to setbacks that one setback doesn’t seem worse than another.”

When you’re sitting in a huge pile of your own shit, it’s nice that your farts don’t stink.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1133 "2023-10-24T21:08:44Z")

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Oversimplified analysis, I’m sure, but:

Either 217+ Republicans unite behind a single candidate, which seems increasingly unlikely as they’re running out of candidates and no one shows any signs of changing their mindset; or

A dozen or so Republicans jump ranks and cut a deal with Jeffries and the Democrats, which would be political suicide.

Jeez, they’re in quite a pickle.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1134 "2023-10-24T21:09:18Z")

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Let’s just normalize the catastrophic dysfunction of one of the two major political parties in the US. NBD.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
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Do American politicians ever commit political suicide?

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1136 "2023-10-24T21:10:35Z")

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Well, another week, another failed Republican Speaker candidate.  
[![](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia2.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FxT9DPJVjlYHwWsZRxm%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=1eca3934efc26320a2c7dd7aa57a1786149c6a5f1077d9f1544ddeb5dc1c4477&ipo=images) ](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia2.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FxT9DPJVjlYHwWsZRxm%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=1eca3934efc26320a2c7dd7aa57a1786149c6a5f1077d9f1544ddeb5dc1c4477&ipo=images)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1137 "2023-10-24T21:11:08Z")

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I think George Santos should be put forward as the next speaker. He has a lot in common with Trump, as he’s been charged with Conspiracy, Wire Fraud, False Statements, Falsification of Records, Aggravated Identity Theft, and Credit Card Fraud.

He sounds like the ideal GOP leader!

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> A dozen or so Republicans jump ranks and cut a deal with Jeffries and the Democrats, which would be political suicide.
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> Jeez, they’re in quite a pickle.

Political suicide… unless they change parties.

Unlikely? Very. But it’s one of the few remaining ways out of this silliness.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1139 "2023-10-24T21:17:05Z")

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Or decide to put their country over their cushy jobs, and vote for Jeffries.  
Ha ha ha ha.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1140 "2023-10-24T21:22:13Z")

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The House Republican Conference will have an “abbreviated” candidate forum at 6:00 Eastern today. Members have until 5:30 (eight minutes from this posting) to declare their candidacy.

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