# The Great Ongoing Revolving Speakership of the 118th Congress {Mike Johnson is new speaker as of 2023-10-25}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 12, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432 "2023-10-12T02:05:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1161 "2023-10-24T23:28:23Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> In the future, everyone will be Speaker of the House for 15 minutes.

> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> In the future, everyone will be the Republican nominee for Speaker for 15 minutes.

I’ve always been an optimist.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1162 "2023-10-24T23:35:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/1716952694206943293)

[![](https://y.yarn.co/a05ef08c-51c5-4cfb-8595-1f0d9c2c6fde_text.gif) ](https://y.yarn.co/a05ef08c-51c5-4cfb-8595-1f0d9c2c6fde_text.gif)

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1163 "2023-10-24T23:47:29Z")

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The GOP will take another vote at 8pm local time.

Hern will drop his bid and supports Johnson.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1164 "2023-10-24T23:48:34Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> He’s probably proposing a strengthening of the [discharge petition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discharge_petition), which allows committees to be bypassed.

That, and change the threshold for a motion to vacate to 10% of the House membership.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1165 "2023-10-25T00:23:09Z")

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Sorry I missed that post. Maybe now the standard unit of short tenure will be the Emmer.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1166 "2023-10-25T00:36:23Z")

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Can’t we find 10-12 Republicans who intend to retire at the end of this term and go on to some big-time law firm, cushy university job or just go fishing in the Gulf of Mexico - jobs that put them more or less out of reach of the MAGA crowd. They could resign _en masse_ right now and leave the House with a slight Democratic majority for the next 14 months.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1167 "2023-10-25T00:38:52Z")

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I like the cut of your jib, Mister.

> [@flurb](#):
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> It’s a bold move, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for him.

I could see **K\_C** ’s plan paying off handsomely for a lot of people.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1168 "2023-10-25T01:05:10Z")

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First evening ballot

Johnson - 85

Donalds - 32

Green - 23

Williams - 21

Fleischmann - 10

Other - 31

Present - 2

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1169 "2023-10-25T01:13:42Z")

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Who are these people?

I mean, I’m not really up to speed on the House of Representatives membership, but I know some of the names that are in the news. These ones could be imported from the Boise City Council for all I know.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1170 "2023-10-25T01:22:34Z")

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“Other” getting 31 votes is not a great sign.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1171 "2023-10-25T01:24:11Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> The GOP will take another vote at 8pm local time.

The Greatest (Shit)Show on Earth!

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1172 "2023-10-25T01:25:58Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> “Other” getting 31 votes is not a great sign.

Just wait - “Other” is going to creep up the votes to get a majority!

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1173 "2023-10-25T01:27:39Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> “Other” getting 31 votes is not a great sign.

Why not?

Don’t progressives (or, in my case, liberals who aren’t quite progressives) want them to keep on failing until there has to be some deal with Jeffries? And we certainly aren’t there yet.

I’m worried that Johnson will win it.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1174 "2023-10-25T01:29:42Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Who are these people?
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> I mean, I’m not really up to speed on the House of Representatives membership, but I know some of the names that are in the news. These ones could be imported from the Boise City Council for all I know.

Rep. Chuck Fleischmann of Tennessee was eliminated in the first round of speaker votes, House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik announced.

House Republicans are moving to second ballot with the following GOP representatives:

- Byron Donalds of Florida, a second-term member of the far-right Freedom Caucus
- Mark Green of Tennessee, chair of the House Homeland Security Committee
- Mike Johnson of Louisiana, the vice chair for the House Republican Conference
- Roger Williams of Texas, chair of the House Small Business Committee

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1175 "2023-10-25T01:36:10Z")

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I meant not a great sign for electing a Speaker tonight.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1176 "2023-10-25T01:38:21Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Don’t progressives (or, in my case, liberals who aren’t quite progressives) want them to keep on failing until there has to be some deal with Jeffries? And we certainly aren’t there yet.

We’ll never get there, because in multi-party politics, the largest voting bloc has the advantage. That is the Democrats. Non-Democratic representatives who are fed up with the situation should be offering their votes to Jeffries.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1177 "2023-10-25T01:38:55Z")

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Green dropped out and endorsed Johnson.

Apparently “others” was McCarthy (33) and Jordan (1)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1178 "2023-10-25T01:41:29Z")

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The only compromise candidate Democrats should be willing to accept is a neutral outsider with no political agenda of their own who is generally regarded as level-headed by both parties and pledges to run the House as a neutral referee.

Where you’d find that person, I’m not sure. Prince Harry, maybe?

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1179 "2023-10-25T01:52:47Z")

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Trevor Noah

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1180 "2023-10-25T01:55:31Z")

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In case nobody else noticed, there won’t be a Speakership vote on the House floor tonight; the House adjourned until noon tomorrow

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