# The Great Ongoing Revolving Speakership of the 118th Congress {Mike Johnson is new speaker as of 2023-10-25}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 12, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432 "2023-10-12T02:05:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1461 "2024-02-07T23:02:21Z")

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This is true, it’s all theater and something they can campaign on. “Elect us to the Senate to drain the swamp!”

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1462 "2024-02-08T10:27:11Z")

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Getting into politics with the name McCarthy will be even tougher now. Think of the poor Macs!

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1463 "2024-02-08T19:55:35Z")

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I hope this is a good thread for this. The election for the expelled former Rep Santos’s seat will be on Tuesday. Democrat Tom Souzzi leads Republican Mazi Melesa Pilip by 48% to 44% in the latest polling which is within margin of error.

> **[Poll shows tight race to fill Santos' New York House seat](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/08/suozzi-pilip-new-york-special-election-00140332)**
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> Democrat Tom Suozzi had a 4-point lead over Republican Mazi Melesa Pilip in a Newsday/Siena College poll, but that was within the margin of error.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1464 "2024-02-08T20:02:07Z")

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this is why republicans are trying to vote on impeachment before next tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1465 "2024-02-08T21:08:36Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Getting into politics with the name McCarthy will be even tougher now.

Darn, so much for supporting anti-vax Jenny McCarthy for president in 2028.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1466 "2024-02-08T21:27:44Z")

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She might surprise you — her four years as President Trump’s VP will give her a boost.

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**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1467 "2024-02-13T13:35:15Z")

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Mike Johnson is such a joke. He doesn’t like the new foreign aid Bill because it doesn’t include border security.

> **[Senate passes $95 billion Ukraine, Israel aid package amid GOP divide](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/12/house-ukraine-johnson-senate/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzA3NzE0MDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzA5MDk2Mzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MDc3MTQwMDAsImp0aSI6ImNmZjM1ZjIzLTljNTctNDg1MS1hOTg4LWFhNzFjOGMyNDAzOSIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy8yMDI0LzAyLzEyL2hvdXNlLXVrcmFpbmUtam9obnNvbi1zZW5hdGUvIn0.PxWgSQl1oE4husyNA2XDgNbMkuitGDAHqWp7poW1MFI&itid=gfta)**
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> The measure, opposed by Trump and his Senate allies, faces dismal prospects in the House as Ukraine struggles to repel Russia’s invasion.

> House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) preemptively rejected the legislation on Monday night, saying in a statement that the package’s failure to address U.S. border security makes it a nonstarter in the House.
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> “In the absence of having received any single border policy change from the Senate, the House will have to continue to work its own will on these important matters,” Johnson said in a statement.

I can’t even wrap my head around his supposed thought processes. “We need birder legislation. We don’t need new border laws, the president can do this without new laws. This bill sucks because there’s nothing about border security.” They don’t even try to be consistent in their lies any more.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1468 "2024-02-13T14:32:44Z")

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Whatever Trump Putin wants.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1469 "2024-02-13T14:35:38Z")

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> [@MulderMuffin](#):
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> They don’t even try to be consistent in their lies any more.

Reminds me of what I read in the paper just this morning about GOP response to Trump’s most recent NATO comments. Paper observed a several times about how practiced GOP Congresscritters are at simply waving away Trump’s continunal outrages. Quoted Graham as saying something to the effect of, “_Are you serious? That’s just Trump being Trump_.”

Meanwhile, a young GoPer from Wisconsin announces his retirement following his sin of voting against the recent impeachment effort.

Just defies trying to analyze/discuss rationally.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1470 "2024-02-13T15:30:02Z")

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Apparently, IA-OKWTDI.

“It’s A-OK When Trump Does It”

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1471 "2024-02-13T16:30:59Z")

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they are going to try for another impeachment vote today.

math is hard.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1472 "2024-02-13T16:36:10Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Quoted Graham as saying something to the effect of, “_Are you serious? That’s just Trump being Trump_.”

It is indeed just Trump being Trump.

Which is exactly why Trump should never have political power.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1473 "2024-02-13T16:47:35Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> they are going to try for another impeachment vote today.

It’s amusing to watch how they are, simultaneously, both so desperate to impeach someone, to prove that impeachment is no big deal (because of Trump!), but are also just so bad at impeaching people. When you can’t even convince your own majority in the House to vote to impeach, there’s something really wrong in your process.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1474 "2024-02-13T16:49:58Z")

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That guy who missed the vote for cancer treatment is back and they must think that they’ve convinced a couple of the holdouts

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1475 "2024-02-13T16:54:12Z")

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If every other vote remains the same from last time, they only need Steve Scalise (who missed the previous vote for cancer treatment) to show up and vote “yes” for it to pass. One of the Republican no votes was actually a supporter who changed his vote to “no” last minute so that he could later move to reconsider the vote.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1476 "2024-02-13T17:31:44Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> It is indeed just Trump being Trump.
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> Which is exactly why Trump should never have political power.

Exactly.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1477 "2024-02-13T17:34:20Z")

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Thanks for the correction.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1478 "2024-02-13T20:28:55Z")

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> [@MulderMuffin](#):
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> House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) preemptively rejected the legislation on Monday night, saying in a statement that the package’s failure to address U.S. border security makes it a nonstarter in the House.

The Senate and Biden gave him a bi-partisan Border control bill. But trump doesnt want it because trump thinks the border issue will hurt Biden.

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**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1479 "2024-02-13T21:01:21Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> The Senate and Biden gave him a bi-partisan Border control bill. But trump doesnt want it because trump thinks the border issue will hurt Biden.

Exactly. He wouldn’t accept the first Ukraine funding bill because he said it needed to include border control. When given a Ukraine funding bill with a hearty helping of Republican border wishes fulfilled he said it was a bad bill and unnecessary since the president didn’t need a new bill to enforce border control. So they sent a different Ukraine funding bill and he is refusing because it doesn’t include border control. The man can’t keep his excuses straight and refuses to say the truth. “I don’t want to do anything that would make even one Democrat happy. Now let’s impeach some people, censure some people, name a few post offices, and get home. These 2 1/2 day work weeks twice a month are draining!”

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-revolving-speakership-of-the-118th-congress-mike-johnson-is-new-speaker-as-of-2023-10-25/991432/1480 "2024-02-13T21:25:48Z")

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> [@MulderMuffin](#):
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> The man can’t keep his excuses straight and refuses to say the truth.

He doesn’t need to “keep his excuses straight”. None of the people who could hold him to account care about the lying and hypocrisy.

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