# The Great Phi Theory. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 7, 2001, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076 "2001-11-07T23:28:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/261 "2002-11-30T17:30:33Z")
:eek: :eek: **OH DEAR GOD LET IT DIE!!!** ---
**Author:** ![Atreyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Atreyu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atreyu)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/262 "2002-11-30T17:50:13Z")
What fresh hell is this? _Kill it! Kill it! KILL IT!_ ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/263 "2002-11-30T19:05:29Z")
Looking back, my conduct in this thread was appallingly unprofessional. I did not realise this at the time due to some rather nasty feedback from a prototype psycho-etheric-field scanner. Thus, instead of posting in a manner befitting a Scientist, I ranted and yelled. Further, due to flaws in the scanner I was using at the time, my readings far from comprehensive. In retrospect, I wonder whether Hiryuu had a fully actuallized Meta-Conscious mind. At the time of the original debate, I was corresponding with an individual I believed to be a fellow Scientist. However, a later model scanner revealed that this individual was not in fact an Etheric Scientist. They had only partially actuallized their MCM, and were what is colloquially referred to as a “Hedge Wizard”. ``` I believe that the same is true of Hiryuu. However, I am able to scan individuals only within travel distance or those who are currently connected to the SDMB. Since Hiryuu no longer frequents the SDMB, I am unable to scan him for further data. ``` ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/264 "2002-11-30T21:22:38Z")
In the 1960s, scientists will rely on Electronic Calculating Machines for complex mathematics like long division. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/265 "2002-12-01T05:11:40Z")
When come back, bring phi. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/266 "2002-12-01T12:49:55Z")
Let it die? Hell no, I’m still waiting for my questions to be answered… ::sigh:: ---
**Author:** ![scotth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@scotth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotth)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/267 "2002-12-01T15:17:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > \*\*Let it die? Hell no, I’m still waiting for my questions to be answered… > > ::sigh:: \*\* Then they are waiting for you to die. ---
**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/268 "2002-12-05T00:48:47Z")
I have become Death, Stealer of Phi. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/269 "2002-12-05T02:29:51Z")
:drool: ---
**Author:** ![Meta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f17d59/32.png) [@Meta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meta)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2002, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/270 "2002-12-06T23:59:26Z")
: \<\<\<\<\<\<\<\<\<\< the secret Meta ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/271 "2002-12-07T00:05:45Z")
Wow, what possible reason could there have been to drag this storied thread back to the fore? I remember reading this way back, in the long-long-ago, before I registered and started regularly reading. After reading a few scraps of it I thought to myself, “what does **Tars** see in this board, why is trying to drag me over here, and what the ever-loving heck is phi?” ---
**Author:** ![Meta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f17d59/32.png) [@Meta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meta)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/272 "2002-12-07T00:07:13Z")
hc:ti:bafon:usdi:putsla:eraer:uo:y Meta ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/273 "2002-12-07T00:09:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Meta \* > **Particles ain’t particles, except the proton.** What, you mean electrons aren’t particles? Neutrons aren’t particles? _But protons are?!_ Um … so, what strange nonstandard definition of “particles” are you using? And is your definition used by any theoretical framework that has any predictive power at all? ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/274 "2002-12-07T00:15:10Z")
Methinks it’s time for **Meta** to get a warning. This: > [@](#): > > hc:ti:bafon:usdiutsla:eraer:uo:y > > Meta is a personal insult, so not tolerated on GD. (Read it backwards) ---
**Author:** ![Meta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f17d59/32.png) [@Meta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meta)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/275 "2002-12-07T00:22:26Z")
“Protons are the only particle”, \Is\ predictive power. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/276 "2002-12-07T00:49:36Z")
So you’re saying that every particle in the universe is actually a proton, and that those particles that “seem” to behave like electrons or neutrons (e.g. different mass than a proton, different charge than a proton, etc.) are, in fact, protons in disguise? Okay … but I still don’t see any predictive power to that statement. Is there any way to “see through” this disguise? How do electrons-that-are-actually-protons behave differently from electrons-that-really-are-electrons? ---
**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/277 "2002-12-07T01:13:17Z")
God in heaven! What is this Phiday the 13th, Part II? **Meta** whatever nonsense you’re spouting, it certainly doesn’t belong in this thread. Start a new one so that everyone can enjoy your whackalicious goodness. Mods, pursuant to the policy of not reviving long-dead trainwrecks and given that whatever **Meta** is talking about, it appears to have nothing to do with the OP, is there any chance of chaining Jason here up once and for all and making it walk off the end of the page into the briny deep? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/278 "2002-12-07T01:59:48Z")
Gamera is friend to children ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/279 "2002-12-07T02:32:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*Gamera is friend to children \*\* CITE ? ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076/280 "2002-12-07T03:03:24Z")
Maybe he meant “ **Gamma ray** is friend to all children”… Gamma ray is really neat, it is made of photon meat, we’re absorbing gamma ray! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-phi-theory/92076.md?page=15)