# The Green Party has nominated a candidate. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 12, 2008, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278 "2008-07-12T23:31:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/1 "2008-07-12T23:31:43Z")
The [Green Party](http://www.gp.org/index.php) has [nominated](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/12/mckinney.green.party/index.html) a candidate for President of the United States. [Cynthia McKinney.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_mckinney) I think I speak for all of us when I say, “What the fuck?” I believe it is safe to make two statements: there will be no Nader effect this year, and, the Green Party has lost it. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/2 "2008-07-13T00:12:46Z")
Well, Nader’s still running. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/3 "2008-07-13T00:20:51Z")
I don’t agree with much of what she stands for, but I have to say that she was a breath of fresh air in the 2004 Democratic primary debates. She was a graceful, positive person who seemed to hold a coherent set of ideas and was not afraid to put them out there. I was very impressed with her Not much of a viable candidate, so I agree on the no Nader effect thesis. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/4 "2008-07-13T00:21:00Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Amazing] Well, Nader’s still running. [/QUOTE] Well, yeah, but who cares? The Green Party could have made a nomination for the future. They’re strong in other countries; could be strong here someday. But when they nominate a fringe wacko like McKinney, who doesn’t have any political chops, either Democratic or Green, umm… what the fuck? Nader at least had chops in 2000. Then in 2004, he stunk, and they decided they had to stink even worse? They’re making a horrible reputation by doing this. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/5 "2008-07-13T00:25:26Z")
Chops, eh. Well isn’t that nice. Peace, mangeorge ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/6 "2008-07-13T00:26:00Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] She was a graceful, positive person who seemed to hold a coherent set of ideas and was not afraid to put them out there. I was very impressed with her. [/QUOTE] Where those coherent ideas about how to assault a Capitol security officer, or the involvement of the Bush administration in the 9/11 attacks? ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/7 "2008-07-13T00:34:51Z")
Thank you Frank. I was wondering if John Mace was thinking of the same Cynthis a McKinney as I was. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/8 "2008-07-13T00:50:07Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] Where those coherent ideas about how to assault a Capitol security officer, or the involvement of the Bush administration in the 9/11 attacks? [/QUOTE] And were those ideas really any less coherent than what we’ve become accustomed to over the last seven years or so? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/9 "2008-07-13T00:51:19Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] Where those coherent ideas about how to assault a Capitol security officer, or the involvement of the Bush administration in the 9/11 attacks? [/QUOTE] Oh so thats where i’d heard the name before. Yeah not quite sure how i can reconsile punching a security guard with graceful and positive. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/10 "2008-07-13T00:57:30Z")
[QUOTE=mangeorge] And were those ideas really any less coherent than what we’ve become accustomed to over the last seven years or so? [/QUOTE] Well, that’s a point. Don’t we deserve better? ---
**Author:** ![Paladud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Paladud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paladud)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/11 "2008-07-13T02:25:59Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] I don’t agree with much of what she stands for, but I have to say that she was a breath of fresh air in the 2004 Democratic primary debates. She was a graceful, positive person who seemed to hold a coherent set of ideas and was not afraid to put them out there. I was very impressed with her Not much of a viable candidate, so I agree on the no Nader effect thesis. [/QUOTE] I think that was Carol Moseley Braun. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/12 "2008-07-13T02:45:22Z")
Agree with the OP…no Nader effect, seriously WTF moment. They have definitely lost it…but then, in all seriousness, it plays to their base, which is, after all, what a political party should do. The Dems should be sighing with relief…after all, not only won’t this pull (much) support from Obama, but it looks like the Libertarian party candidate probably WILL take at least some from McCain. -XT ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/13 "2008-07-13T03:05:22Z")
Has Cynthia McKinney ever been closely tied to the environmentalist movement? I don’t think so, which is a bad sign in itself. Her nomination suggests that the Green Party has moved waaay beyond its original mission, and chosen someone NOT because she’s devoted to their (supposed) cause, but because she’s a loudmouthed radical who despises the current administration. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/14 "2008-07-13T03:10:37Z")
[QUOTE=Paladud] I think that was Carol Moseley Braun. [/QUOTE] Oops. My bad. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/15 "2008-07-13T03:20:39Z")
If we had a runoff process, I’d consider voting for her in the first round. (And yeah, John, you’re thinking of Carol Moseley Braun. Whom I really liked in '04, but who has left politics.) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/16 "2008-07-13T03:27:49Z")
[QUOTE=foolsguinea] If we had a runoff process, I’d consider voting for her in the first round. [/QUOTE] Why? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/17 "2008-07-13T03:58:14Z")
Because she’s not a classical liberal Big Money tool like Barry Obama? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/18 "2008-07-13T04:43:26Z")
You know, if the Green Party had nominated a ticket of Ron Paul and Cynthia McKinney, they’d have the Flaming Loon vote sewn up. And there are a lot of them out there. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/19 "2008-07-13T04:51:14Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] Where those coherent ideas about how to assault a Capitol security officer, or the involvement of the Bush administration in the 9/11 attacks? [/QUOTE] Is this true? Did she really say that GW Bush was behind 9/11? This is the first I’ve heard of that. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278/20 "2008-07-13T06:20:24Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia] Is this true? Did she really say that GW Bush was behind 9/11? This is the first I’ve heard of that. [/QUOTE] According to Wikipedia, it depends on how much you believe the view of [the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_mckinney#9.2F11_Commission) If that’s all there is (and this being Wiki, I’m sure there would be added cites if there were more), then I’d say the truth seems a little murky at best. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-green-party-has-nominated-a-candidate/456278.md?page=2)