# The Grey Havens (Forbidden Lord of the Rings Mafia) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 12, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019 "2010-08-12T04:04:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Woeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Woeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Woeg)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/81 "2010-09-21T17:10:31Z")
Never played Mafia online (though often in person) - I’ve followed many of the threads here on the Dope, and I have to say, Peeker was totally pinging my Scum meter, big time. I was really surprised that he flipped Town. No offense to his play style, but it was so random and hectic that it felt sure to me that he was trying to muddy the waters. If Chronos flips scum, as Peeker suspected, I will be seriously impressed. I may have to throw my hat in for the next game 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/82 "2010-09-21T22:25:56Z")
> [@Woeg](#): > > Never played Mafia online (though often in person) - I’ve followed many of the threads here on the Dope, and I have to say, Peeker was totally pinging my Scum meter, big time. I was really surprised that he flipped Town. No offense to his play style, but it was so random and hectic that it felt sure to me that he was trying to muddy the waters. If Chronos flips scum, as Peeker suspected, I will be seriously impressed. > > I may have to throw my hat in for the next game 🙂 come play. the water is fine except for the sharks. and if you really want grins and giggles go to idle’s board. the freaking great whites troll around over there. but we are always looking for small fish to dine on. woot woot and hee hee. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/83 "2010-09-21T22:52:56Z")
> [@Woeg](#): > > I may have to throw my hat in for the next game 🙂 It’ll be Evil Dead 2, so make sure you sign up for the thread. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/84 "2010-09-22T01:14:23Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > > [@Woeg](#): > > > > I may have to throw my hat in for the next game 🙂 > > It’ll be Evil Dead 2, so make sure you sign up for the thread. a **story** extravaganza. this sucker ought get to 100 pages (on the default) by Day 1. at least if i have anything to say about it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/85 "2010-09-22T01:56:03Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > and if you really want grins and giggles go to idle’s board. the freaking great whites troll around over there. but we are always looking for small fish to dine on. Clearly you don’t know your mafia history. The shark is a lie. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/86 "2010-09-22T02:06:09Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > and if you really want grins and giggles go to idle’s board. the freaking great whites troll around over there. but we are always looking for small fish to dine on. > > Clearly you don’t know your mafia history. The shark is a lie. never believe **rysto**. good course of action as a default. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/87 "2010-09-22T02:26:51Z")
This is true. The only games that I’ve won recently I’ve been scum. When I’ve been Town I’ve been wrong about damn near everything. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/88 "2010-09-22T16:14:02Z")
BTW, this would appear to be a situation where the unconfirmed Town could guarantee a win by engaging in mass-suicide-by-Mod, unless there are several more Scum than you’d suppose. (two more scum would be more than you’d expect, although not completely out of line given Drain’s significant drawback. Three more would be a lot.) ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/89 "2010-09-22T16:14:19Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > This is true. The only games that I’ve won recently I’ve been scum. When I’ve been Town I’ve been wrong about damn near everything. and as a charter member don’t feel bad. there are some durn nice folks in that club. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/90 "2010-09-22T16:35:49Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > BTW, this would appear to be a situation where the unconfirmed Town could guarantee a win by engaging in mass-suicide-by-Mod, unless there are several more Scum than you’d suppose. (two more scum would be more than you’d expect, although not completely out of line given Drain’s significant drawback. Three more would be a lot.) My policy is that anyone who engages in mod-suicide is an automatic loser even if their team wins. Just to prevent such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/91 "2010-09-22T17:28:25Z")
Yeah, mod-killed people can’t count themselves as winners even if their team wins. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/92 "2010-09-22T18:46:15Z")
Quoth **Alka Seltzer** , on the first page: > [@](#): > > Am I right in saying Chronos has revealed he knows the the name of another player? That’s curious, Chronos is on record as being dead-set against soft claims. Yes, which is why I said what I did. The problem with a soft claim (if true) is that it gives Scum information that’s valuable to them (who a power role is; they don’t care much exactly _what_ the role is), but it does not give Town anything that can help them significantly. So once a power role is revealed to be a power role, it is in Town’s best interest for them to tell more. This does not necessarily mean that they tell Town _everything_, just that they tell enough for Town to plan around their powers to some extent. Oh, and I think it’s probably spoilerish if I talk about anything about my role here, but I’ll say some about that on the spoiler board, and once the game is over. ---
**Author:** ![Woeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Woeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Woeg)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/93 "2010-09-23T12:40:51Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > > [@Woeg](#): > > > > I may have to throw my hat in for the next game 🙂 > > It’ll be Evil Dead 2, so make sure you sign up for the thread. EVIL DEAD 2?!?!? _squeeeeee!_ I am so there 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/94 "2010-09-23T14:03:17Z")
MHaye’s right that the timing of IS’s day one vote should not be held against him. Obviously I want him alive given he subbed in for me, but regardless, it’s the principle of the thing. Now the content of what I said before I had to leave, that’s a different story. ---
**Author:** ![Omi\_no\_Kami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a88e4f/32.png) [@Omi\_no\_Kami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omi_no_Kami)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/95 "2010-09-23T15:52:35Z")
Is there already a signup thread for the ED2 game? Because I might be up for that, too. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/96 "2010-09-24T15:13:48Z")
Shouldn’t the Day be over by now? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/97 "2010-09-24T16:22:47Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Shouldn’t the Day be over by now? maybe he took the mahalothette to the zoo again. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/98 "2010-09-24T17:27:10Z")
ok, starting to have horrible flashbacks of the gastard game on giraffe. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/99 "2010-09-24T19:06:12Z")
I don’t know anything about that game, but I’ve been spoiled, and there was nothing gastardly about this one. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/100 "2010-09-27T00:18:44Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I don’t know anything about that game, but I’ve been spoiled, and there was nothing gastardly about this one. it was a smart aleck comment **chronos** so just chill. in that game the mod went missing and we ended up having to get a sustitute mod to stand in. everyone was supposed to truthfully send her our pms and then she would take over. the beast went on for fracking ever. so i was just being a smart ass in a light hearted way. but shit this beast has ground to a halt. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019.md?page=6)