# The Grey Havens (Forbidden Lord of the Rings Mafia)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 12, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019 "2010-08-12T04:04:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grey-havens-forbidden-lord-of-the-rings-mafia/550019/78 "2010-09-11T17:01:29Z")

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> [@Lord of the Rings Mafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2407):
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> OK, we _really_ need to hear from the surprisingly-not-dead **Nanook** now.
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> Meanwhile, though: **Natlaw** was a watcher, not a full investigator. I consider it unlikely that the Scum would have had both a watcher and a normal investigator, and yet he knew (as confirmed by **Astral** ) what **Astral** was. This implies that **Astral** is Scum.
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> **Vote Astral**
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> Also note that **Astral** recommended yesterDay that **Nanook** investigate him: This is certainly consistent with the assumption that **Natlaw** ’s claim was an attempt to save a valuable Scum, since Godfathers benefit greatly from being investigated.

Why couldn’t natlaw have gotten the astral info from another scum?

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