# the "Grindhouse" thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 6, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034 "2007-04-06T21:17:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/81 "2007-04-11T21:57:02Z")
It is worth checking out the Grindhouse Movie Connections: [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462322/movieconnections](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462322/movieconnections) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/82 "2007-04-11T22:41:55Z")
[QUOTE=Unauthorized Cinnamon] I think you mean, “cried like a little whiny girl about.” 😃 [/QUOTE] That’s one tired expression that definitely does **not** fit in with the movie’s kickass women. Unless he was crying while riding the hood of a car or blowing someone away with a machine gun leg. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/83 "2007-04-11T23:31:18Z")
[QUOTE=Dr. Rieux] According to [this IMDB story](http://imdb.com/news/sb/2007-04-10/), some moviegoers are leaving the film early because they aren’t aware that it’s really two movies. Did these idiots manage to ignore all of the posters, lobby stand-ups, commercials, and trailers that explicitly tell you it’'s two movies? Are people getting stupider or what? [/QUOTE] And the movie doesn’t seem to be doing great box office either. Was everyone not in the mood because of Easter or Spring Break? How well do Tarantino films usually do? Will it pick up next week? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/84 "2007-04-12T01:00:07Z")
[QUOTE=jackdavinci] And the movie doesn’t seem to be doing great box office either. Was everyone not in the mood because of Easter or Spring Break? How well do Tarantino films usually do? Will it pick up next week? [/QUOTE] These are his bigger films: Kill Bill: Vol. 2 Opening Weekend $25,104,949 (USA) Gross $66,207,920 (USA) (22 August 2004) Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003) Opening Weekend $22,089,322 (USA) (12 October 2003) (3,102 Screens) Gross $70,098,138 (USA) (23 May 2004) Pulp Fiction (1994) Opening Weekend $9,311,882 (USA) (14 October 1994) Gross $107,928,762 (USA) (sub-total) Budget $8,000,000 Jim ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/85 "2007-04-13T22:23:18Z")
A theatre near me is now showing and advertising these as two spearate films- does anyone know if this was approved, or the work of a rogue theatre manager? ---
**Author:** ![Autumn\_Almanac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Autumn\_Almanac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autumn_Almanac)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/86 "2007-04-14T01:02:27Z")
Well, I’m going to see it again on Sunday-- doing my part to make its box office death a little less ugly. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/87 "2007-04-15T01:42:33Z")
How about a little love for Tom Savini? (And I wish Rodriguez would do a Sex Machine movie.) It was funny seeing (in _Death Proof_) one of the girls drinking a soda from a cup with the logo of the “Authentic Tex-Mex” restaurant that was advertised between movies. The two directors took very different approaches: Rodriguez created the movie that a teenage boy _wished_ he could see when he went to a hole-in-the wall theatre or the drive-in. Those movies, being outside the mainstream system, had more freedom than regular movies (and regularly broke cinematic rules, like having children, dogs, and little old ladies die brutally). They were advertised with lurid, sensational posters – but the actual product was made for very little money, often by people without tremendous professional skill, and thus could be something of a letdown. It seems like Rodriguez set out to deliver what the posters promised. Tarantino, because he’s an obsessive geek, made an obsessively close copy of the kind of exploitation movie you might really have seen in 1970, right down to the blood that looked like bright red paint. I would have liked it better if he’d actually set it in that period; the mixture of very modern details and references was a little jarring. And I’ve really heard enough Tarantino dialogue to last me a few years; unfortunately he hasn’t advanced in that area in the past decade, and may actually have regressed. But Kurt Russell is always watchable. I may have missed something; at first I thought Stuntman Mike had a vendetta of revenge for a tragedy inflicted in the past by a drunk woman driver – but then later it seems he’s just a misogynist psychopath. I wanta see Cheech Marin as a priest with a trunk full of shotguns. “God has mercy – I don’t!” ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/88 "2007-04-15T02:08:11Z")
Saw it today at the morning matinee. There were perhaps 10 people in the theater. Both halves were quite enjoyable, but I was getting a little antsy about the 150-minute mark…mother nature was calling, but I didn’t want to miss anything! I got a huge laugh when they were trying to avoid the cows: > [@](#): > > _"\*\*Mooo, muthaf_ck!!"\*\* \*My brother and I have been saying that to roadside bovines for at least 15 years. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/89 "2007-04-15T05:05:46Z")
We saw it tonight. The theater was about half full. My husband and I, and the two guys behind us, were laughing our heads off. I had tears rolling down my cheeks during Planet Terror. ---
**Author:** ![Reno\_Nevada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Reno\_Nevada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reno_Nevada)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/90 "2007-04-15T17:54:59Z")
I saw this yesterday. I had a blast. One scene that I really wanted to see was where they bring the car back to what’s-his-name and pick up the cheerleader. If that is in the re-release I will watch it. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/91 "2007-04-15T18:28:24Z")
[QUOTE=Reno Nevada] I saw this yesterday. I had a blast. One scene that I really wanted to see was where they bring the car back to what’s-his-name and pick up the cheerleader. If that is in the re-release I will watch it. [/QUOTE] Yeah, but the ending was perfect. It might have been a great after-credits scene. ---
**Author:** ![Khampelf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Khampelf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khampelf)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/92 "2007-04-16T05:44:56Z")
[QUOTE=msmith537] Yeah, but the ending was perfect. It might have been a great after-credits scene. [/QUOTE] I watched all the credits with a bursting bladder for any ‘bonus’, to no avail. I really wanted to see how they would explain the condition of the Challenger to the ‘Tobacco Road Redneck’ Jasper. Can’t wait for ‘Machete’ to come out on DVD. ---
**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/93 "2007-04-16T08:49:32Z")
[QUOTE=VCO3] Also, Rosario Dawson is the cutest living woman. [/QUOTE] After seeing her sex scene in **Alexander** , I thought she was the sexiest woman alive. Love how she looks in **Death Proof**. I loved the trailers, especially **Machete** , but I was shocked to enjoy Robert Rodriguez’s **Planet Terror** a lot more than Tarantino’s movie. The dialogue was flat, IMHO, and the big car chase scene didn’t do for me what Rose McGowan blasting zombies what her leg did. Maybe I’ll think better of it when I watch it at home on DVD. Damn you, Tarantino! I really wanted to see that lap dance! ---
**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/94 "2007-04-16T10:31:49Z")
Planet Terror: Robert Rodriguez writes THE book on retrofitting a genre while breaking the needle on the “gross-o-meter”. If you’ve found yourself killing spiders or cutting raw chicken for your partner, you may want to reconsider with whom you attend. Death Proof: Ponderous yet ultimately redeemed by not taking itself too seriously. A lot of fun in the end. Rose McGowan + Grindhouse = Instant A-List for Miss M. She is SO hot in this film she makes broccoli look like staplers. Doesn’t make sense, does it. Know what? It doesn’t matter, that’s how hot she is. I don’t even care if that sounds stupid. That’s how hot she is in this. You are not ready. Fake Trailers: What a friggin coup. DON’T ---
**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/95 "2007-04-16T10:41:37Z")
Forgot to add this to Death Proof: The stunt work is amazing. Very well done. A tip of the hat. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/96 "2007-04-16T11:33:24Z")
[QUOTE=Shamozzle] Forgot to add this to Death Proof: The stunt work is amazing. Very well done. A tip of the hat. [/QUOTE] Seconded – and I’ll agree with Stuntman Mike (and Tarantino) that it’s a lot more fun seeing real cars, driven by real people, racing around and smashing into things than seeing CGI. In a lot of modern movies, there might be a point where you see an impossible car stunt and realize you’re essentially watching a cartoon; totally loses its thrill. ---
**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/97 "2007-04-16T11:55:07Z")
[QUOTE=Baldwin] Seconded – and I’ll agree with Stuntman Mike (and Tarantino) that it’s a lot more fun seeing real cars, driven by real people, racing around and smashing into things than seeing CGI. In a lot of modern movies, there might be a point where you see an impossible car stunt and realize you’re essentially watching a cartoon; totally loses its thrill. [/QUOTE] Certainly. I remember watching the chase scenes thinking, “What the fuck are they (the film’s creators) doing? That’s crazy!!” It was so obvious that it was 100.1% real. ---
**Author:** ![Ex\_Scientia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@Ex\_Scientia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ex_Scientia)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/98 "2007-04-16T20:29:37Z")
My girlfriend wanted to leave when the Bishes were talking during Death Proof. I said no and it paid off. I was really hoping for more slo-mo deadly crashes ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/99 "2007-04-17T13:51:42Z")
[QUOTE=Ex Scientia] My girlfriend wanted to leave when the Bishes were talking during Death Proof. I said no and it paid off. I was really hoping for more slo-mo deadly crashes [/QUOTE] What are Bishes? Is that a band name? I’m so unhip about these things. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2007, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034/100 "2007-04-17T13:56:24Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] The blond Doctor and her problem getting into the car was one of the best parts. Despite all the gore, her scene had more of the theater gasp than any other. [/QUOTE] I noticed that too in the theatre – the over-the-top blood and guts led to laughter, but the scene where she slips and falls with her hand in the door handle had people moaning in sympathy. I noticed the same thing with John Carpenter’s _The Thing_ – even with all the crazy monster-violence stuff, what got the most audible reaction was a character simply having his thumb sliced for a blood sample. I think it’s because these are things we can vividly imagine happening to us, and maybe have experienced, as opposed to zombies ripping our guts out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grindhouse-thread/399034.md?page=6)