# The Grudge. Fuck you. (Don't read if you don't want it spoiled.) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 6, 2005, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grudge-fuck-you-dont-read-if-you-dont-want-it-spoiled/288646 "2005-02-06T12:59:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grudge-fuck-you-dont-read-if-you-dont-want-it-spoiled/288646/21 "2005-02-06T23:01:46Z")
The worst thing about that awful movie is **Sarah Michelle Gellar**. I cannot believe she would want to take a roll that basically calls for her to whimper like a stupid bitch in the corner. ---
**Author:** ![jester21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed655f/32.png) [@jester21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jester21)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grudge-fuck-you-dont-read-if-you-dont-want-it-spoiled/288646/22 "2005-02-06T23:45:53Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > The worst thing about that awful movie is **Sarah Michelle Gellar**. I cannot believe she would want to take a roll that basically calls for her to whimper like a stupid bitch in the corner. …and she didn’t wear any revealing outfits or have a gratuitous shower/sex scene… …nor did she go around killing vampires… so what was the point? ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grudge-fuck-you-dont-read-if-you-dont-want-it-spoiled/288646/23 "2005-02-07T00:04:47Z")
I loved this movie. I laughed so long and so hard. Best comedy I’ve seen in years. Oh wait I was supposed to be afraid of the little cat boy with too much mascara? Huh. Anyway on a serious note there was maybe 2 good scares the whole movie surrounded by the most obvious set ups in the world. I loved how the ‘oh it’s time to be scared now’ music tipped you off every time. And really who’s afraid of little Japanese boys in mascara? If I wasn’t laughing at that I was wondering why they didn’t really handle the ghosts very well. You have to have some sort of rules the villain plays by or you’re just watching a snuff film. Hell even Freddy and Jason have limits to their powers. These ghosts are able to wipe out people with no restraint so there was no compelling reason to watch unless you just want to watch people die. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grudge-fuck-you-dont-read-if-you-dont-want-it-spoiled/288646/24 "2005-02-07T03:53:12Z")
> [@jester21](#): > > Granted the one cop tried… but still!! … i mean, how stupid are the Japanese police? > > Oh wait. Logic. This is hollywood. > > Nevermind. This is a whole 'nother rant of its own, but add in ‘lazy’ and this depiction of the Japanese police is spot-on. [Cops look on as gangsters pummel student to death (Mainichi news)](http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/waiwai/0501/0104copthat.html) [Another case of someone being dragged from a police station and beaten while the cops stand there with their thumbs up their asses.](http://www12.mainichi.co.jp/news/mdn/search-news/923123/dragged-20-27.html) [Additional stories from U.S. News & World Report (2000)](http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Denei/3053/2000articles.html) > [@](#): > > …a 19-year-old girl who accompanied a male companion to a hospital in Niigata prefecture, north of Tokyo. The hospital staff became suspicious and soon discovered that the girl had been kidnapped by the man when she was just 9 years old, spending a decade locked in his room. When the media got hold of the story, it was headline news, and the police immediately called a news conference to explain how they cracked the case. But the police had nothing to do with the girl’s rescue. As senior officers later admitted, the police, in fact, had ignored calls by hospital staff to investigate. Even after the hospital uncovered the girl’s history, the chief of police refused to break away from a mah-jongg game to take charge of the investigation. > > …[and in a separate case] > > Shiori Ino, had sought protection from the police in Ageo, in the northern suburbs of Tokyo. But instead of investigating the case, Ageo police officers urged Ino to drop her complaint against the stalker. “We are very busy,” one of them told her. When Ino persisted in filing a criminal complaint, which would have obliged the police to investigate and send papers on to the prefectural headquarters, the officers secretly downgraded it to a “report” on which no police action was required. A month later Ino was murdered. If you want directions, ask a cop. If you’re actually in trouble, you’re probably better off handling it on your own, because these morons are worse than useless. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grudge-fuck-you-dont-read-if-you-dont-want-it-spoiled/288646/25 "2005-02-07T07:09:31Z")
God what I’d give for that 96 minutes back. What a total waste. ---
**Author:** ![rukkus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b5ac83/32.png) [@rukkus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rukkus)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grudge-fuck-you-dont-read-if-you-dont-want-it-spoiled/288646/26 "2005-02-07T07:45:08Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > OK, I understand it’s a remake of a Japanese flick, and for Og’s sake I hope the original was better. > > I had quite a few goosebumps during the movie. Anything involving ghosts (mean) or anything in general that isn’t supposed to be freaks my shit out. (While panned by some, _The Ring_ really got under my skin.) > > NO FUCKING STORY TO IT!!! > Fuck everyone involved in this piece of shit. You scared me a few times until I laughed at the end when it was never revealed WHY the fucking kid was following people around. Little shape-shifting bastard. I hope to be able to go Maddox on him and kick him in the nuts. And his psycho mom that loves to appear in pictures of other dead people…FUCK! I can hardly keep up! > > Whatever anyone thought of _The Ring_, at least there was resolution at the end. This steaming pile of fibrous waste left my system looking at me with a look that said, “You actually made me waste electrons playing this shit?” > > See? Even my inanimate home theater system thought it sucked. > > I can see how maybe the producer(s) were trying to guarantee a sequel. But there’s nothing to work with here. I’d equate it to reading chapters 5-14 of Great Expectations and being expected to know what the full story involved. > > Fuck everyone involved in this movie, and especially anyone involved in marketing it so heavily. And the cock-mongers that were qouted saying “It’s more scary than Th Ring” or some such shit can lick the corn from my ass while I’m still chewing it. Yes, I hate those fuckers that much. > > For the last decade horror flicks have fallen out of favor of the general public. Know why? If not, you haven’t seen _The Grudge_. > > For a few years it looked promising to us fans of adrenaline rushes. But then you come along with what not only looks like a kick-ass horror flick, it’s piggy-backed with the success and art of the original. And you go and fuck it all up. > > The reason I compare it to _The Ring_ is two-fold. > > First, _The Ring_ had a, wait for it, STORY TO TELL! What a fucking concept! > > Second, it LET YOU IN ON THE LITTLE SECRET!!! > See the difference in you suck-ass movie?!? In the superior one (and based on that alone it’s superior) THE AUDIENCE KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK WAS GOING ON IN THE HAUNTINGS!!! > As said, ghost stories are the only ones that freak me out. The only thing that scares me more is death by drowning in a large body of water. (But if I drown in a pool it wouldn’t be so bad, go figure) > > I started this movie hoping I’d have to maybe change my underwear when it was done. Now I’m just hoping to someday meet the producer so I can plop a steaming pile of shit into his mouth. > > In case I didn’t make it clear above, I want to reiterate. > > Fuck everyone involved in this crapfest Hollywood saw fit to dump on us. I almost feel sorry for the actors (Bill Pullman, have you no shame?) but they signed on after reading the script. Or lack thereof. > > So to the actors, fuck you too. > I’m so pissed about this shit I hope the gaffers contract gonnoreah (sp?) and the mother of the lighting guy gets an infected ingrown toenail. > > :mad: no shit. i turned it off. what a waste of fuken time. and money. and effort. and boredom that could have been used on the fuking australian open tennis thingo, and so on… ---
**Author:** ![Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_You_Big_Red_Fire_Engine)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grudge-fuck-you-dont-read-if-you-dont-want-it-spoiled/288646/27 "2005-02-07T10:34:02Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > 1. The Ring. She doesn’t sleep. (I still feel uneasy in a room with a tv if it isn’t on) Like I said I am affected by ghost stories. But at the very least you’re told WHY it’s happening. There’s resolution. Granted, there’s an opening for a sequel. (I’m hoping if one is in the works it’s at least half as good.) But even if it stands alone, you know why the weird shit is happening. I don’t think that she doesn’t sleep thing explains it at all. It explains why she’s a ghost, not why she created a video and is trying to kill abyone that watches it. > [@MidnightRadio](#): > > I thought The Ring made as much sense as Ringu. Yeah, it was told a little differently, but I didn’t see any real differences in the plots of the two movies. As I recall, they both ended with the mother deciding to have her son make a copy of the tape and show it to someone (so he wouldn’t die). The only difference I remember is that in The Ring, we actually saw the boy making the copy. The whole premise of the film? [SPOILER]That Sadako’s mother was a psychic who was ridiculed to her eventual suicide, and that her father is believed to be an otherworldy evil creature, giving Sadako the power to kill by intention. That there were two Sadakos, a good(with the power to heal) and an evil. And the good one was killed because the evil one could possess her body. I don’t even understand that whole horse sub-plot in The Ring. [/QUOTE] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-grudge-fuck-you-dont-read-if-you-dont-want-it-spoiled/288646.md?page=1)