Ah bugger, old age creeping up, still, I don’t think you can make much of less than 6 years of onternational relationships in this context.
More to the point, as I stated a few days ago, if it had been China or Russia that invaded Iraq instead, in exactly the same circumstances, everybody in the US would be screaming blue murder. And with reason, but now, oh no, IOKIUSTDI.
Spelling gets difficult at my age too.
Nobody would seriously claim that the Daily Mail maintains a strict distinction between editorialisation and news. Some would claim it of the BBC, perhaps with
some validity. The two of your four examples where it is most clear are the Telegraph and Guardian, and their news reporting is often very similar. Which kind of proves my point, I feel.
That all these newspapers use ICM polls contradicts the suggestion of inherent bias:
Cite? Or, now which logical fallacy is that? As I recall, you don’t read the Daily Mail, so who are you to pass judgement?
I don’t buy it, no. I read it in the pub.
Are you telling me that the Mail has the same separation of the two as the Guardian and Telegraph, or not?
We’re mad, bad, and dangerous to know.
If you’re making the claim, you back it up.
Actually, Rick, we are a different species. There’s this step in the naturalization process we don’t much like to talk about . . .
You’re getting distracted. We were told earlier in the thread that we couldn’t trust the survey in question because of the Guardian’s left-wing editorial stance. I said that this was irrelevant, because this article was not part of the Guardian’s editorialising.
Could you be more specific, in showing the depth and nature of that involvement, and how it invalidates the poll results?
They can’t do that to our presidents!
Only WE can do that to our president.
Bush isn’t even that popular in this country, let alone elsewhere. If you did a survey here and limited it to all the large “red” cities you’d probably get a similar result.
In just the last week or so we’ve had all these major “gee whiz” reports and surveys - Global Warming To Bankrupt Everybody, No More Seafood By Mid-Century, and now Bush The Worst Threat to World Peace In Anyone’s Short-Term Memory.
Wonder what other revelations will ensue before Tuesday’s U.S. elections.
And quite intentionally, by the way.
I don’t doubt the poll’s results, and I don’t see any reason to think that The Guardian is cooking the books on this one. I just don’t put much stock in public opinion polls as being a worthwhile method to assess the gravity of a given threat. In the same sense that people generally are more afraid of flying than driving, this poll just tells me that people are largely irrational in their fears.
How is it irrational to think that the US is more likely to invade a foreign country than North Korea is? I can’t imagine any sane, objective person believing otherwise.
There’s more to “world peace” than who invades whom. For example, it’s the US which is laregely responsible for the fact that NK isn’t going to invade anyone anytime soon.
Well sure. The US is a major part of the reason that Kim isn’t really all that serious a threat to world peace. That doesn’t prevent the US from being a threat to world peace in other parts of the world, completely independent from the situation on the Korean peninsula. I suppose you could try to move down on the list by pulling out of South Korea, bumping Kim up to top spot by giving him more latitude to do stuff - though I suspect Japan and South Korea can keep the lid on by themselves.
Look, quite simply, the most serious prospect of a major war in the near future is a conflagration centering on an Iraq civil war, spilling over to involve Turkey and Iran and possibly the Saudis. And if that happens, the one man most responsible for the situation will be the man who destroyed the central authority in Iraq without making adequate provisions to replace it.
Revelations ? Only to people who weren’t paying attention.
The article says the poll was run with
The Toronto Star
Israels Haaretz
Mexicos Reforma
The point was are we more dangerous than Kim. He is dangerous to his own people.We are dangerous to the whole world. we win.