# The gun and ammo hoarders may have been right

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 2, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837 "2017-02-02T18:31:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/121 "2017-02-06T02:02:36Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> I’m so mad at \<insert liberal grievance of the day here\> that I’m going to go out and riot and burn down my own neighborhood!

Of course not, you’ll destroy\* other people’s\* neighborhoods. Kill and rape and burn, like the good old days.

> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> As for gang rapes, I don’t belong to that religion or culture.

You are a Trump supporter; that means you belong to the culture of hatred of women and support their abuse, assault and murder.

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**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/122 "2017-02-06T02:31:01Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Of course not, you’ll destroy\* other people’s\* neighborhoods. Kill and rape and burn, like the good old days.
> 
> You are a Trump supporter; that means you belong to the culture of hatred of women and support their abuse, assault and murder.

I haven’t seen any Trump supporters rioting and rampaging recently, but I have seen quite a few cases of democrats and liberals violently rioting, attacking women and others.

As for the culture of hatred of women, with their abuse, assault and murder of women, gays and others, that backwards culture is very well loved and protected by the democrats.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/123 "2017-02-06T02:32:55Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> As for the culture of hatred of women, with their abuse, assault and murder of women, gays and others, that backwards culture is very well loved and protected by the democrats.

Yes, the Democrats _are_ overly solicitous of the Republicans and their hatred of women, gays and others.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/124 "2017-02-06T02:43:18Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> You’re a typical right winger, so I’m sure you’d find burning cities and piles of corpses entertaining, and probably join in on the gang rapes of “uppity women” with great enthusiasm.

A real scumbag. Probably too cowardly to actually deliver on the tough talk though. Just like his hero, Shittypants Nugent.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/125 "2017-02-06T02:51:40Z")

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“I’m telling you folks I’m no preacher. But it’s going to get worse; can I get an Amen? It’s going to get worse, but we cannot bow down. We can’t lay down if we stand up till our death, that’s what we need to do,” [http://http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/05/town-takes-stand-after-mayor-forced-to-remove-christian-flag.html](http://http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/05/town-takes-stand-after-mayor-forced-to-remove-christian-flag.html)

So we have an entire town in Mississippi that’s fighting (to the death they say!) for the right to fly a Christian flag on government property. But it’s the liberals who are stirring up trouble? These guys are the “decent Americans”?

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**Author:** ![KatTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@KatTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KatTP)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/126 "2017-02-06T10:35:30Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> And here are some more facts to interject into the conversation.
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> Gun sales are actually down following the election of the glorious Donald Trump.
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> Most liberals apparently either don’t have money or jobs to purchase any guns and many of them live in big cities with very strict gun laws, so there hasn’t been any liberal stock piling of guns.
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> I imagine that decent Americans outnumber liberals at a ratio of 9 to 1 probably, when it comes to fire arms ownership, so if anybody is itching for a civil war or a revolution, and many angry liberals certainly are, then I don’t see why not. It would be a pretty funny sight to see.
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> [http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/11/27/gun-sales-down-following-trump-victory](http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/11/27/gun-sales-down-following-trump-victory)

The ‘glorious Donald Trump?’

You can’t be serious. At first I thought you were a little frightening, somewhat unhinged and in need of professional help. Now? I have to assume you’re getting paid for this. No one can be this ridiculously stupid.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/127 "2017-02-06T13:08:12Z")

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Can we get **Calico Jack** back? His posts at least made some sense some of the time, and were _entertaining_ when they didn’t. Now apparently _this shit_ is okay, because no matter how nonsensical and insane his statements are, he does so without using any slurs? Fucking hell.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/128 "2017-02-06T19:41:06Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> And here are some more facts to interject into the conversation.
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> Gun sales are actually down following the election of the glorious Donald Trump.

Gun sales are down because Trump isn’t perceived as hostile to the second amendment so nobody feels like this might be their last chance to buy guns.

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> Most liberals apparently either don’t have money or jobs to purchase any guns and many of them live in big cities with very strict gun laws, so there hasn’t been any liberal stock piling of guns.

As far as hobbies go, guns are a relatively cheap hobby. You can buy a decent rifle or pistol for under $1000. I can literally buy a real gun for less than some Nerf Guns. Big city liberals think of guns as something that is owned by cops and robbers its just part of the culture in many large cities. They blame guns for gang violence and when they see teenage boys killing each other with guns, they blame the guns.

> [@](#):
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> I imagine that decent Americans outnumber liberals at a ratio of 9 to 1 probably, when it comes to fire arms ownership, so if anybody is itching for a civil war or a revolution, and many angry liberals certainly are, then I don’t see why not. It would be a pretty funny sight to see.

When tyranny comes, I expect that the “decent Americans” will be standing against it right next to the liberals.

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> [http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/11/27/gun-sales-down-following-trump-victory](http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/11/27/gun-sales-down-following-trump-victory)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/129 "2017-02-06T19:58:21Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> As far as hobbies go, guns are a relatively cheap hobby. You can buy a decent rifle or pistol for under $1000. I can literally buy a real gun for less than some Nerf Guns.

1. That’s a relatively cheap hobby? Relative to _what_?
2. What real gun are you comparing to what Nerf Gun?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/130 "2017-02-06T20:25:03Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> 1. That’s a relatively cheap hobby? Relative to _what_?
> 2. What real gun are you comparing to what Nerf Gun?

Looking for the ridiculously expensive Nerf Gun, I found the [NERF N‑Strike Elite Rhino‑Fire Blaster](https://www.google.com/search?q=Nerf+N-Strike+Elite+Rhino-Fire+Blaster&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS690US697&oq=Nerf+N-Strike+Elite+Rhino-Fire+Blaster&aqs=chrome..69i57.1530j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8), which is complete multi-component set including ammo, for under $75.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/131 "2017-02-07T14:24:40Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Looking for the ridiculously expensive Nerf Gun, I found the [NERF N‑Strike Elite Rhino‑Fire Blaster](https://www.google.com/search?q=Nerf+N-Strike+Elite+Rhino-Fire+Blaster&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS690US697&oq=Nerf+N-Strike+Elite+Rhino-Fire+Blaster&aqs=chrome..69i57.1530j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8), which is complete multi-component set including ammo, for under $75.

That is the gun I was talking about.

I was in wal mart an I saw that same nerf gun for over $100 and a break action shotgun for under $100.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/132 "2017-02-07T15:51:10Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> That is the gun I was talking about.
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> I was in wal mart an I saw that same nerf gun for over $100 and a break action shotgun for under $100.

Now that you know that the most expensive toy weapon set, complete with ammo, can be easily purchased brand new for under $75 can you show me a gun you think is worth buying for less?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/133 "2017-02-07T16:19:32Z")

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I just checked Walmart’s website and couldn’t find any shotgun for under $100. I then checked Cabela’s, Sportsman’s Guide and even Cheaper Than Dirt-no firearms at all for under $100.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/134 "2017-02-07T17:09:50Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I just checked Walmart’s website and couldn’t find any shotgun for under $100. I then checked Cabela’s, Sportsman’s Guide and even Cheaper Than Dirt-no firearms at all for under $100.

I’ve seen used shotguns (usually a 20 gauge, probably break open but maybe some pump action, IIRC) for under $100. Same with .22 rifles.

Not sure if they were brand new, though. Brand new I think I’ve seen $120 or so.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/135 "2017-02-07T17:13:26Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’ve seen used shotguns (usually a 20 gauge, probably break open but maybe some pump action, IIRC) for under $100. Same with .22 rifles.
> 
> Not sure if they were brand new, though. Brand new I think I’ve seen $120 or so.

I’m pretty sure pricing used guns vs. new Nerf guns would be cheating…and that new Gun can be had easily, from several sources, for under $75.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/136 "2017-02-07T17:26:45Z")

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I was so nervous about aliens what took’ er jerbs, I broke down and bought a Slim Whitman record.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/137 "2017-02-07T17:28:18Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I’m pretty sure pricing used guns vs. new Nerf guns would be cheating…and that new Gun can be had easily, from several sources, for under $75.

He did say “real gun”, not “brand new gun”. And he’s right, I think – shooting can be a pretty damn cheap hobby.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/138 "2017-02-07T17:32:23Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Yes, the Democrats _are_ overly solicitous of the Republicans and their hatred of women, gays and others.

This. Every single Republican, 50% of the country, your parents, children and other family, actively hate women, (including women), gays and other non-Republicans.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/139 "2017-02-07T17:32:37Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Of course not, you’ll destroy\* other people’s\* neighborhoods. Kill and rape and burn, like the good old days.
> 
> You are a Trump supporter; that means you belong to the culture of hatred of women and support their abuse, assault and murder.

The people actually calling for political rape were left wing protesters. Are you really this paranoid? If so seek help. We still have Obamacare.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gun-and-ammo-hoarders-may-have-been-right/778837/140 "2017-02-07T17:33:47Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> The people actually calling for political rape were left wing protesters.

I’m still waiting for your cite in that Milo thread that the violent offenders were “campus Democrats”.

Just thought I’d bring it up, in case you forgot.

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