# The “Hallelujah” Thread: Cohen and Covers

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [September 17, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hallelujah-thread-cohen-and-covers/971734 "2022-09-17T19:22:46Z")\
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Bob Dylan’s live cover is one of the more interesting versions to me, since it’s the only one I know of that uses the four-verse version Cohen recorded rather than the five-verse version that the John Cale cover and those inspired by it use, and the guitar work from Dylan is some of his best.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cuLmf7DMPPo/hqdefault.jpg "Bob Dylan - "Hallelujah" LIVE") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuLmf7DMPPo)

Jeff Buckley’s version is my favorite of the Cale-alikes - the guitar is haunting and you can feel the pain in the singer’s soul, and hearing it always makes me feel sad about how Buckley didn’t get to live to see his version become popular.

Cohen is said to have written as many as 150 verses for the song, and faxed Cale 15 pages of lyrics when he was developing his cover. I’d really like to hear some versions that incorporate some of the verses that aren’t used in the two most common arrangements.

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> - Are there other songs you like which are now considered classics which languished until featured in a movie?

Basically any song that appears in a Quentin Tarantino film.

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Pentatonix nails it:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LRP8d7hhpoQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Pentatonix - Hallelujah (Official Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRP8d7hhpoQ)

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Everybody knows…you left out one of the best.

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Most beautiful:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dLk9pzmaFHY/maxresdefault.jpg "The Most Beautiful Version of "Hallelujah" You Have Ever Heard") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLk9pzmaFHY)

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I love Leonard Cohen, I have listened to his records endlessly for 40 years and have seen him live three times and it was great, but Hallelujah is the one song I cannot suffer. Pity. And on the last concert the woman next to me sang awfully along, it was painful, she messed the rhythm all up, missed the cue to start and finish and so out of tune it would have curdled milk in the udder had a cow been present. Almost ruined the whole experience.

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> The original is my favorite, but I do enjoy k.d. Lang’s 2010 version.

Me, too.

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> What is the best Leonard Cohen song?

Suzanne. But I like the Judy Collins version better than Cohen’s. I feel like he’s the greatest singer-songwriter of all time who couldn’t sing.

That’s a little unfair, but I don’t love his voice, and I like a lot of covers of his songs better than I like his versions.

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I hadn’t heard the k.d. lang version before this thread, but, _damn_, it’s good. So much contemplation, melancholy and experience in that voice. Buckley’s is probably my favorite, but I like the original, too. Anything that doesn’t sound too “pretty” works for me.

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Re: Jennifer Warnes

Powerful arrangement! Or, as I like to say: F\*\*\* Yeah!

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You might like this cover, then:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ch6h278GEpA/hqdefault.jpg "Madeleine Peyroux Dance me to the end of love") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch6h278GEpA)

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I like my version of it, but I might be biased. 🙂

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Rufus Wainwright. He made me a fan after hearing his live version of Hallelujah.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LQK4YfiPj1Q/maxresdefault.jpg "Rufus Wainwright - Hallelujah (Live At The Fillmore)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQK4YfiPj1Q)

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You haven’t heard “Hallelujah” until you’ve heard it in the original Yiddish:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/XH1fERC_504/maxresdefault.jpg "Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" - in Yiddish") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH1fERC_504)

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I feel like he’s the greatest singer-songwriter of all time who couldn’t sing.
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> That’s a little unfair, but I don’t love his voice, and I like a lot of covers of his songs better than I like his versions.

Same here. And as others have mentioned upthread, k.d. lang’s 2010 arrangement is one of the best I’ve heard.

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Very much off-topic, but I saw this yesterday.

There was a well-publicized memorial service in a nearby town for a teacher-coach who had been struck and killed by an impaired driver while walking in Memphis. One of the songs sung at the service was ‘Halleujah’. I had never heard this sung at a funeral, but when I searched it, it appears that it is something performed at celebration of life services. Has anybody else heard it at a funeral?

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I have heard it sung at a memorial.

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The cover version I listen to the most is by the Vitamin String Quartet.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q-jMGvvMoAg/hqdefault.jpg "Hallelujah - Vitamin String Quartet Tribute to Jeff Buckley") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-jMGvvMoAg)

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The Jeff Buckley version was my introduction to the song, I feel like it’s a parallel tale of moving from enthusiasm to cynicism both in a relationship with God on the one hand, and human love on the other.

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> Another interesting fact that comes up is about the controversy over whether this is a secular (sexual) song or a religious song. It turns out that Cohen continuously worked on lyrics over a number of years and there are “canonical” Cohen secular and religious versions (and anything in-between, apparently).

Cohen mixes elements of two biblical stories (David and Bathsheeba, Sampson and Delilah) in a single verse. He draws on lots of religious imagery, but it isn’t coherent or consistent. It doesn’t qualify as a religious song in that sense.

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