# "The Harem of Elon Musk" or Musk's Family Values **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [April 18, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186 "2025-04-18T20:22:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/41 "2025-04-19T17:38:52Z")
\*munching on popcorn\* Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/42 "2025-04-19T18:10:33Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > I can only hope Elon gets one too, as soon as possible. Let’s toss in a Lobotomy, too! ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/43 "2025-04-19T18:28:15Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Math is one way to obtain the sex (if not the gender) of the zygote you fertilize. Similar to the rhythm method of “cross my fingers” contraception. It is possible to calculate ideal impregnation date by studying menstural cycles. I think it’s safe to say this is not an effective method, your sample size of 1 notwithstanding. Maybe it can influence the odds a little, but a) you generally can’t predict ovulation down to the day and b) the ‘wrong’ sperm can still easily win the race. > [@scudsucker](#): > > I’m not sure if Elon follows the scientific method, or if he just offers to artificially inseminate his lady of choice du jour. Most if not all of his kids were conceived via IVF, which would allow selecting the sex. Don’t know why he’s not doing it the natural (and far more fun) way. > [@scudsucker](#): > > Either way, an arguement can be made for vasectomy in his case. He can (but doesn’t necessarily) support his many children, but he is in every case an absent father. I don’t support involuntary sterilisation. But it’s a scummy way to behave. It’s not like having a family and then getting divorced; he never intended to be a father to most of his kids, and by all accounts he’s treated their mothers’ shittily too ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/44 "2025-04-19T18:28:36Z")
“Special Government Employee” is as close to an actual title he holds, something akin to the “Dollar-a-Year Men” like Bernard Baruch who descended upon Washington in 1917 to assure that tens of thousands of American war deaths would achieve maximum value to the bankers and industrialists. Trump’s take on his actual title was more vague: “Elon is, to me, a patriot. So, you know, you could call him an employee, you could call him a consultant, you could call him whatever you want. But he’s a patriot” But his personal life reveals his preferred title: Commander ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/45 "2025-04-19T18:32:16Z")
OK, a patriot, I get it\*. But for which nation? \*Sarcasm, of course. And the other big patriot judging patriotism just makes it more absurd. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/46 "2025-04-19T18:35:38Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > If you cannot attack the policies, attack the man. Classic propaganda technique. Do you have any defense for either the “man” or ANY of the policies? or can you explain your use of the word propaganda, which didn’t apply to the OP so WTF? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/47 "2025-04-19T19:08:40Z")
That there (@Dallas_Jones comment) was a textbook example of rank and visceral tribalism: - My guy picked this guy - You’re all being mean to the guy my guy picked – a guy who is weak, vulnerable, and powerless to defend himself, it need be said - Wash - Rinse - Repeat IMHO, it was _stunning_ how nakedly tribal the comment was, though it really shouldn’t be. “Shocked, but never surprised.” Nothing either more or less than that. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/48 "2025-04-19T19:25:50Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > If you cannot attack the policies, attack the man. Classic propaganda technique. Now that we’re in the Pit, eat shit and go fuck yourself. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/49 "2025-04-19T19:28:55Z")
IVF is usually done because it’s the WOMAN who has a problem, usually blocked tubes. The really creepy thing about this is his “compound”, upon which at least one of these women lives. One wonders if the women chose any of this. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/50 "2025-04-19T20:17:40Z")
I hope Musk doesn’t have a will and when he dies each of those kids inherits a billion dollars. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/51 "2025-04-19T20:25:48Z")
It is a philosophy (maybe too strong of a word) called pronatalism or natalism. It is the belief that people should have more kids. Which is often considered a pro-social drive in many religions and cultures. Except it also has the implied (or recently outright stated) view that the _right_ kind of people need to have more kids, otherwise we’ll be overrun by the wrong kind of people. It is a principle of the quiverfull, trad-wife, and such movements. I haven’t kept up with the “Practical ways to increase birth rate” (or whatever it was called thread), maybe this is talked about in there. Anyway, Musk is definitely a follower of this philosophy. > **[Natalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalism)** > > Natalism (also called pronatalism or the pro-birth position) is a policy paradigm or personal value that promotes the reproduction of human life as an important objective of humanity and therefore advocates a high birthrate. > According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the term, as it relates to the belief itself, dates from 1971 and comes from French: nataliste, formed from French: natalité, birthrate. > As a population decline is observed in many countries associated with ageing and cultural m... ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/52 "2025-04-19T20:35:57Z")
> [@TeroSunbear](#): > > There were rumors about his organ. Oh sure, if you cannot attack the man, attack his wiener. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/53 "2025-04-19T20:41:29Z")
In one of the Reddit threads about Elon’s broken dick, it was pointed out that the most common reason for a penis implant to fail is that the patient doesn’t follow doctor’s orders and attempts to “use” it too soon after the operation. It strikes me as entirely plausible that Elon ruined his own dick because he thought he knew better than doctors and tried to jerk off before hs should’ve. Also, if true, this would mean he (in a way) has the same villian origin story as Doctor Doom, which is both hilarious and fitting. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/54 "2025-04-19T20:50:25Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Oh sure, if you cannot attack the man, attack his wiener. 🙄 Yeah, the Pit is definitely a more fun place to hang out. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/55 "2025-04-19T20:58:18Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Oh sure, if you cannot attack the man, attack his wiener. \*golf clap\* Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/56 "2025-04-19T21:51:34Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > IVF is usually done because it’s the WOMAN who has a problem, usually blocked tubes. There have been cases where a woman paid for an egg from a woman, a sperm from a man, and a surrogate to carry the fetus/baby after the egg and sperm had been joined. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/57 "2025-04-19T22:00:13Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > let along have any of her body parts touch his. Ewww No kidding. He’s just gross. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/58 "2025-04-19T22:23:36Z")
> [@TeroSunbear](#): > > This is almost worth a Straight Dope column. Investigate why Musk can’t have kids the normal way. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Because no living human woman wants to be in the same room with him, let along have any of her body parts touch his. Ewww. Much as I love dunking on Elmo, my unfortunate involuntary introduction to hearing about his sex life came from finding out he was having scheduled threesomes with Amber Heard while she was still married to Johnny Depp during the Depp vs. Heard trial. There isn’t enough brain bleach in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/59 "2025-04-19T22:28:04Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Much as I love dunking on Elmo, my unfortunate involuntary introduction to hearing about his sex life came from finding out he was having scheduled threesomes with Amber Heard while she was still married to Johnny Depp during the Depp vs. Heard trial. There are now reports that Amber may be one of Elon’s babymamas. It’s a girl, which would explain why he hasn’t claimed that one. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186/60 "2025-04-19T23:01:39Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > he was having scheduled threesomes with Amber Heard while she was still married to Johnny Depp during the Depp vs. Heard trial. There isn’t enough brain bleach in the world. So if elmo is 1 & Heard is 2, who is 3? I find nothing odd about a rich guy paying for sex from a woman who trades on her looks and ability to behave credibly in ways she doesn’t really feel. It’s sordid, but it’s ordinary everyday sordid. Happens every night in expensive bars and ginourmius houses all across the land. Setting aside the paying part, lotta people who are separated pending divorce are out there dating. Nothing unusual or even wrong about it. A marriage _functionally_ ends when somebody walks out intending not to return. What’s bleach-worthy about such common stuff? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-harem-of-elon-musk-or-musks-family-values/1017186.md?page=4)