# The Hate Speech Warning in the "Requiem" CS thread

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**Created:** [July 7, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hate-speech-warning-in-the-requiem-cs-thread/790687 "2017-07-07T13:47:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hate-speech-warning-in-the-requiem-cs-thread/790687/1 "2017-07-07T13:47:35Z")

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> [@Requiem For A Dream: How do you think they turned out later?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/requiem-for-a-dream-how-do-you-think-they-turned-out-later/790619/12):
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> You guys misunderstood the Tyrone thing. I mean’t that his employment opportunities are super low considering his situation when he gets released.

The poster who posted the above was earlier warned because of this post:

> [@Requiem For A Dream: How do you think they turned out later?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/requiem-for-a-dream-how-do-you-think-they-turned-out-later/790619/4):
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> It is obscure whether Sara’s brain was fried permanently or not.  
> As for Tyrone and Harry, their should be a high chance of them quitting the drug for good since neither of them are going to be able to use it anytime soon.  
> As for Marion I don’t know.  
> **Considering Tyrone is black it seems that its highly likely that he would just be a bum once he comes out of prison though.**

(emphasis mine)

**Contemplation** says, in effect, that what he meant was merely that Jared Leto’s character, Harry Goldfarb, would have been able to leverage his white privilege post-incarceration and possibly avoid the downward spiral to which Marlon Wayans’ Tyrone C. Love would have more likely succumbed.

Had he used my words, I doubt anyone would have blinked.

So, in an effort to explore the framework of what “hate speech,” is, I am curious to learn if the warning will be rescinded, given his explanation and my attempt to rephrase. I personally have no recommendation.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hate-speech-warning-in-the-requiem-cs-thread/790687/2 "2017-07-07T14:01:03Z")

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Considering past threads like [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=751215), I’m not sure if I buy the poster’s explanation.

But I’m not sure if it’s even relevant to being modded – the words are being modded, not the sentiment behind them. “He’d be a bum because he’s black” sounds like it violates the rules of the board, even if there’s some nuance to what the poster meant – if he meant it in a different way, he should have said it differently. I think.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hate-speech-warning-in-the-requiem-cs-thread/790687/3 "2017-07-07T14:06:44Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Considering past threads like [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=751215), I’m not sure if I buy the poster’s explanation.
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> But I’m not sure if it’s even relevant to being modded – the words are being modded, not the sentiment behind them. “He’d be a bum because he’s black” sounds like it violates the rules of the board, even if there’s some nuance to what the poster meant – if he meant it in a different way, he should have said it differently. I think.

Was not aware of that prior history.

OK, then I’d say my question is answered. This was not a _tabula rasa_ reaction.

Case closed, from my perspective.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hate-speech-warning-in-the-requiem-cs-thread/790687/4 "2017-07-07T14:38:38Z")

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I’ll weigh in, since I issued the warning in question, but **iiandyiiii** has already covered it.

Even without the poster’s history, the phrasing is highly questionable, at best—I believe the word “bum” carries a negative connotation about how someone _chooses_ to live. And while **Bricker** correctly notes the “explanation” given by the poster, I’d add that said explanation didn’t come until after another poster (in the post immediately prior) offered the same possible rationale for the “poor” phrasing.

Any plausible deniability was removed by the poster’s prior contributions on the subject of race.
