# The Hateful Eight **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713 "2015-08-13T01:27:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/41 "2015-08-14T19:40:32Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > I hear this all the time, but I don’t see it. His movies are unquestionably filled to the brim with references and homages to other movies. Tarantino’s film knowledge is remarkable. I catch some of the references, but a lot of them go over my head. Here is a list for Pulp Fiction (scroll down to ‘Movies’): [Pulp Fiction Movie References Guide - The Quentin Tarantino Archives](http://wiki.tarantino.info/index.php/Pulp_Fiction_Movie_References_Guide) ---
**Author:** ![JustinC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justinc/32/8083_2.png) [@JustinC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustinC)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/42 "2015-08-14T19:58:05Z")
The trailer looks like the cast had a lot of fun making it, which is not usually a good sign for the viewers. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/43 "2015-08-14T20:06:11Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > His movies are unquestionably filled to the brim with references and homages to other movies. Tarantino’s film knowledge is remarkable. I catch some of the references, but a lot of them go over my head. Here is a list for Pulp Fiction (scroll down to ‘Movies’): [Pulp Fiction Movie References Guide - The Quentin Tarantino Archives](http://wiki.tarantino.info/index.php/Pulp_Fiction_Movie_References_Guide) It’s a good list. But I think this one - _“Ringo Starr - Member of the Beatles. Jules calls Pumpkin ‘Ringo’ due to his British accent.”_ - is wrong. I think it’s more likely the use of Ringo is a reference to the various gunfighter characters named Ringo in a number of western movies. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/44 "2015-08-14T20:13:38Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It’s a good list. But I think this one - _“Ringo Starr - Member of the Beatles. Jules calls Pumpkin ‘Ringo’ due to his British accent.”_ - is wrong. I think it’s more likely the use of Ringo is a reference to the various gunfighter characters named Ringo in a number of western movies. That’s certainly possible, but more likely? There’s a lot of guys with guns in the movie, but only one Brit, and he’s the only guy who gets called “Ringo.” I suspect it’s more to do with his accent than his armament. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/45 "2015-08-14T20:44:43Z")
I loved Inglourious Basterds but I thought Django was too similar. Replace evil Nazis with evil slave owners, replace Jews with Slaves, completely ahistoric story line. And it’s not like they’re so similar as to be replaceable: Inglourious was just made better. More suspense, more over the top ending, they killed freaking Hitler, and Christopher Waltz’s part was better. Not that I didn’t like Django. I just thought it was not breaking new ground, and most of the themes and ideas had been used (and used better) in IB. So, I’m hesitant to be excited for a new Tarantino movie if this is just going to be Django 2: Electric Boogaloo. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/46 "2015-08-14T21:04:22Z")
What was ahistorical about _Django_? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/47 "2015-08-14T21:46:12Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > What was ahistorical about _Django_? I was talking about _Inglorious Basterds_, sorry I wasn’t making that clear. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/48 "2015-08-14T22:06:46Z")
I meant **DrCube** ’s post: > [@](#): > > Replace evil Nazis with evil slave owners, replace Jews with Slaves, completely ahistoric story line. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/49 "2015-08-14T22:48:47Z")
Jango Unchained was so stupid awesome it’s almost worth it to sit through A Million Ways to Die in the West just to see his post credits cameo. > [@Superdude](#): > > According to the IMDB trivia on _Hateful Eight_, I guess that makes sense. A lot of Tarantino’s (and Robert Rodrigues’s) movies would appear to take place in the same “universe”, or at least he recycles the same characters. Or maybe just the same names. For example: Texas Ranger Earl McGraw (Michael Parks) appears in From Dusk Til Dawn, Planet Terror, Death Proof and Kill Bill. In Reservoir Dogs, Mr. Blonde (aka Vic Vega) is the brother of Vincent Vega from Pulp Fiction. Also, Mr. White’s parole officer is Seymore Scagnetti and in Natural Born Killers (written by Tarantino) Tom Sizemore plays Det. Jack Scagnetti. Sgt. Donny Donowitz (Inglorious Basterds) and Lee Donowitz (True Romance) might be related. There are actually a bunch of them. Either way, I’m reserving judgment. This kind of looks like Reservoir Dogs in the Old West. Since I’ve seen Tarantino do Reservoir Dogs and the Old West with Jango, I’m not sure if there’s anything new here. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/50 "2015-08-15T13:17:43Z")
Umm, it’s Django. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/51 "2015-08-15T15:47:36Z")
WTF? Fifty posts and nobody has mentioned the fact that _Kurt Russell_ is in this film? Talk about burying the lede. I’ll see it for Kurt’s mustache alone. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/52 "2015-08-15T22:29:17Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > His movies are unquestionably filled to the brim with references and homages to other movies. Tarantino’s film knowledge is remarkable. I catch some of the references, but a lot of them go over my head. Here is a list for Pulp Fiction (scroll down to ‘Movies’): [Pulp Fiction Movie References Guide - The Quentin Tarantino Archives](http://wiki.tarantino.info/index.php/Pulp_Fiction_Movie_References_Guide) Then let me amend my statement to say his films are like bad 1970s comic book scripts that reference old movies and TV characters. Well, his post-Pulp-Fiction movies, anyway. His movies (and scripts) up to that point were pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/53 "2015-08-16T16:45:42Z")
You and I were clearly reading _very_ different comics in the 70s. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_A_Tame_Lion)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/54 "2015-08-17T04:23:43Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Umm, it’s Django. “The D is silent.” ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/55 "2015-08-17T18:04:35Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Do you feel that way about all movies with anachronistic music? > > The soundtrack in _A Knight’s Tale_, for example, is one of its best features. …and Peaky Blinders! The modern soundtrack totally works in the gritty 1920s Birmingham, England. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/56 "2015-08-17T19:09:27Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > Then let me amend my statement to say his films are like bad 1970s comic book scripts that reference old movies and TV characters. Can you explain in what way you think Quentin Tarantino movies are like 70s comic books? Like Miller, I read a lot of comic books back in the seventies and I haven’t noticed any resemblance to what Tarantino puts up on the screen. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/57 "2015-08-17T19:45:51Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I couldn’t find another thread about the new Tarantino movie so here this is. > > I just [watched the trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnRbXn4-Yis) and must say that I am looking forward to this movie. It could be epic in 70mm. Thanks for the link - to me it looks like it will be very entertaining. I love QT’s movies…for that reason alone…they’re very entertaining. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hateful-eight/727713/59 "2016-12-11T22:59:21Z")
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